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Subject Topic: Another fatality, possibly with fumes
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14/3/2012 at 8:15pm
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Just listened to news headlines 8pm. Sadly,couple found in camping pod at site in Penrith, one dead, one ill possibly with carbon monoxide fumes. Everyone take care this season.


14/3/2012 at 8:35pm
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terrible news, i heard it too..so very very sad.


14/3/2012 at 9:22pm
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Oh no that is incredibly sad did they use their own heaters?

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14/3/2012 at 11:38pm
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Story Here

This should be an eyeopener for all of us - especially those that continue to think its perfectly safe.

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14/3/2012 at 11:40pm
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Not again. Why?!

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Mar - Milarrochy Bay - 9 days
Apr - Drayton Manor - 1 day
May - Saxdale - 4 days
May - Nantcol - 9 days
July - Weymouth - 1 day
July - Rozel Bay - 14 days
Aug - Corfe Castle - 2 days
Aug - Saxdale - 4 days
Sep - Stratford - 2 days
Oct - Stainforth - 2 days
Dec - Saxdale - 5 days
To be continued.....


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15/3/2012 at 7:38am
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Other news sources state that it was caused by a barbecue, seems odd that anybody would actually use one inside a pod. Do these pods have cookers & heaters inside them, I wonder?


15/3/2012 at 7:49am
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Sadly no matter how many warning etc are issued there will always be the "won't happen to me" factor.


15/3/2012 at 7:59am
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Quote: Originally posted by Camping nutcase on 15/3/2012
Sadly no matter how many warning etc are issued there will always be the "won't happen to me" factor.


I don't think the warnings are visible enough, or strong enough. They usually comprise: 'Use in well-ventilated area'. Many gas heaters specifically target campers, so it's surely another accident waiting to happen.

Here is the product description for the Blackcat, on Amazon:

'Product Description
Manufacturer's Description
The Coleman Blackcat Propane Heater is the perfect companion in lower temperatures thanks to the use of propane, it integrates the PerfectTemp™ catalytic process for a flameless, more stable heat. Whether at the campsite or on a riverbank, the Blackcat is ideal when directional heat is required.
Box Contains
Coleman Blackcat Propane Heater
User Instructions '

and here is the Campingaz Bluecat (also on Amazon):

'Product Description
Box Contains
Campingaz BlueCat Heater
User Instructions
Product Description
Camping Gaz - Blue Cat Heater 203518 - GAZ203518 '

Here is one of the reviews:

'Most Helpful Customer Reviews

11 of 11 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Hot Performer!!, 19 Sep 2009
By
P. Harris "Pop" (UK) - See all my reviews
(REAL NAME)   
This review is from: Campingaz BlueCat Heater (Sports)
Was a little sceptical at first as to whether this item would provide much warmth but after using it in my Outwell Hartford XL tent on a couple of cold nights i was very impressed!
The living space inside the tent is vast yet this flameless catalytic heater warmed it up a treat! Well worth the money!! '

See any warnings that this product can be lethal? Nope! People buy the things, unaware, don't always read the small print - if indeed there is any specific small print - then use them in poorly ventilated tents etc. They are marketed for camping, what else are the majority of purchasers going to think?



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P.S.

The Gelert gas heater is the only one which includes a vague sort of warning in the product detail, but would you even spot it?

'Product Description
Box Contains
Gas Heater
Product Description
This pick-up and carry gas heater uses a cartridge canister making it a truly portable heater. Robust and simple to operate, light and compact to carry and an easy clean enamel surface.

?Convenient carrying handle
?Durable easy to clean surface
?Long life ceramic burner
?For outdoor use in a well ventilated area
?Combined temperature control and piezo ignition
?1.1kw output
?Height 30cm, width 30cm, depth 27cm'


Incidentally, I can recall a time when posters advocated taking the Cobb barbecue into the tent, as a heating source once cooking was finished, so this is 'awareness of the dangers/it won't happen to me' approach is not a universal truth. I suspect it's more about ignorance of the dangers.

What a shocking waste of life. My thoughts are with those poor families who have lost loved ones.

I believe it's about time manufacturers stepped up their game and issued a very clear warning on their products.


15/3/2012 at 8:27am
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We've stayed in a pod but it did have an electric panel heater.
Looking at the ones on Quiet site website it looks like they have no heating, hence why they maybe used a gas heater.
So sad.


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15/3/2012 at 8:49am
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Their on line brochure states that they do have heating.

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15/3/2012 at 9:26am
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Quote: Originally posted by raf48 on 15/3/2012
Their on line brochure states that they do have heating.

Apologies for my mistake.


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Easter - Low Park Wood CC Kendal
May - Yellowcraigs CC North Berwick
June - Wharfedale CC Grassington


15/3/2012 at 9:50am
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I imagine these pod things don't have smoke alarms or carbon monoxide alarms?

David



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we have small carbon monoxide alarms at home, it maybe be a good idea to take one camping and use in tent, as use gas for cooking.

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2013   Nothing as yet , trying to get new boyfriend to go camping soon. Selling Maritisa 700 , so we can put it towards a VW Camper.


15/3/2012 at 12:13pm
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we have put a carbon monoxide alarm in our van for this very purpose, so sad that people are still losing their lives because of it

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I suspect it will turn out to be a bbq (probabally a disposable one) brought indoors.
Ellesbelles you have a point but I think the heaters are by and large not the issue, it seems to be BBQ's and perhaps they should have the warning on. I can see its tempting to bring a small portable one inside for warmth.

Those pods should as a minimum have smoke detectors and CO and even oxygen depletion sensors. The lawers will be sharpening their pencils.I think if you have such a small airtight box they need to take a duty of care about the quality of the air inside.



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