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29/7/2013 at 10:19pm
 Location: ludlow
 Outfit: Bailey mikado t
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Hello there , my first time be nice

Anyways I acquired a 1989s Bailey Mikado t for the lovely sum of 150 quid, I knew it had major damp but I thought it was worth a punt . So I got it home and proceeded to check how rot ton it is and wellllllll, I estimated that 80% of the frame work is rot ton its not damp its dry rot. The floors sound except for some delamination by the door and the rear corner is rotten .

All the windows and furniture are sound just rotten frames and the main beam in the roof is OK .

Now I've got around 12 months to work on it due to starting a new job and I'm fairly OK with DIY is it worth it or shall I scrap it.

I'll take some pics tomorrow and excuse the spelling auto correct on my iPad sucks :-)


30/7/2013 at 7:08am
 Location: None Entered
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What I was told was,
If its the van you want, right size, layout etc and you like it, work out how much it would cost to but one with no rot and how much it cost to repair yours. Also if you rebuild yours you can add things or move things etc to make it just as you like it.

I'm thinking of doing it to mine as I do like the idea of knowing that the van is solid, plus I would have socketc where I want them, aerial sockets where I want them, air heating, lights etc etc.


30/7/2013 at 7:33am
 Location: Scotland
 Outfit: Coachman Highlander (Amara)
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If you have the time and can afford it think of it as a hobby to see you over the next year. Nothing much lost.


30/7/2013 at 9:41am
 Location: Hants
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Everything to gain. You will know the 'van inside out and back to front by the time you have finished. It will be completely solid and trustworthy. Doesn't cost a lot, just takes time. You could buy an almost new 'van and have the same problems. Go for it!


30/7/2013 at 10:54am
 Location: ludlow
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That's what I like the idea of knowing its totally dry . I'm sure it would only cost a few hundred for the wood and 150 for the van . Like you said I could spend 1000s and still buy a damper .

I'll post pics as I go with my progress , I'm going to go slow and easy .

Regards James


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30/7/2013 at 10:55am
 Location: ludlow
 Outfit: Bailey mikado t
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Would evo stick.   Be OK to attach the batons to the aluminum skin as tiger seal would be very expensive


30/7/2013 at 10:55am
 Location: lincs
 Outfit: Austin A30 & teardrop
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I have a classic car, I have spent three thousand pounds on it and it's still only worth fifteen hundred. My son has spent more on computers and games etc. But thats his hobby. I have enjoyed evey single minute working on my car. So the question is,   A, are you enthusiasic and going to enjoy the work or B, is  it going to be a chore, If the answer is A, go for it (all hobbies cost money). If the answer is B, get rid and go dig the garden if you want to punish yourself,

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30/7/2013 at 11:23am
 Location: ludlow
 Outfit: Bailey mikado t
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Well I've Neva done anything like this before but I think I will enjoy it maybe not the stripping out but the building I will enjoy nd being able to use it after will be good . I'll just do little at a time.

Am I right in thinking if I strip out all the wooden frame and the cupboards the caravan will fall over? Or would it be stable enough to work in .

I was going to do a wall at a time so the caravan still had some strength .

Regards James


30/7/2013 at 11:51am
 Location: ludlow
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the pics I promised

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag79/froggyribbit/20130730_114118_zpscc035e66.jpg

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As you can see rotten most of the caravans like it .





30/7/2013 at 11:58am
 Location: west country
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Fix it up & be proud of it at the end.

You could spend your time & money on playing golf. All you would have at the end of it would be balls in holes.


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30/7/2013 at 12:24pm
 Location: Manchester
 Outfit: Cotswold Windrush 13 ; Riley 2½ litre
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Retimbered a good few caravans in my time.
Do it a bit at a time froggyribbit. Replace some unusable wood, rebuild that part of the van then move on to an adjacent bit. The frames are mostly half-lap or even butt joints with steel L brackets, so it is well possible. You don't lose the shape or the fit, the structural integrity isn't compromised, it works trust me.

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30/7/2013 at 12:34pm
 Location: Hants
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Quote: Originally posted by froggyribbit on 30/7/2013
Would evo stick.   Be OK to attach the batons to the aluminum skin as tiger seal would be very expensive



You are better off with a solvent free adhesive - to avoid melting any nearby foam.

The structure will be very floppy if you remove the furniture, framing and foam. It would be best to replace sections of framework at a time measuring carefully to ensure you retain the shape of the 'van. If the foam is well stuck to the aluminium outer skin, leave it in place. Sikaflex is your friend!


30/7/2013 at 12:53pm
 Location: ludlow
 Outfit: Bailey mikado t
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OK just stripped rear yes your right their all butt joints , the foam is not stuck to the walls at all and there is no L brackets at all I assume their all glued but its that rotten they are just falling off the walls.

The floor seems to not be the sandwich construction everyone talks aboutjust ply   bolted onto the chassis and polystyrene under it and that covered In plastic so it doesn't get wet does that sound right ?


30/7/2013 at 1:06pm
 Location: ludlow
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more pics here I'll try to keep you updated as much as possible people I'm sure I'll need you help every step of the way .







:-) made a mess




30/7/2013 at 2:10pm
 Location: Hants
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Always looks a mess 'till you start rebuilding. The rot will have been caused by the mastic on the external rails and fittings drying out and failing. This causes leaks into the framework which rots then crumbles away.

If you use Sikaflex 512 to reseal your rails etc. once the new framework is in place the 'van should stay dry forever. Clean off the old mastic with white spirit, then degrease thoroughly with meths.


30/7/2013 at 7:07pm
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No wonder it leaks some Muppet been using household silicone sealent on the rails and there was no sign of mastic just a dried flaking mess, better had do all the rails then .



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