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20/9/2015 at 4:22pm
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Hi we have an old Avondale Panthers with mains electric.we only have two Microsoft taps.the sink is working fine but the bathroom one has no power to it.have checked water runs ok but pump does not turn on when crossing the wires to the tap.am considering changing to a pressure pump to negate the need to check the wiring.is this an easy install? Any advice would be appreciated.we only have cold water.

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20/9/2015 at 4:47pm
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Rewiring the taps will be much easier and cheaper than installing a pressure system.



20/9/2015 at 9:57pm
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We had an old 91 Abi Ace Jubilee with micro switches which failed. Under warranty the dealer changed it to a pressure system rather than mess about with them.

He put a pressure switch and a whale pressure damper near the water intake and connected it to the existing 12 volt for the pump which was already there in that position. It looked like the wiring went to the pump then to the micro switches. So a very simple wiring job and just the cost of the bits.

The pressure system is much better as you can adjust the tap to a very low. The damper maintains the pressure meaning the pump can be switched on and off by the pressure switch.

I think modern pumps are higher pressure and flow rate to cope with showers than the old ones used to be.


26/9/2015 at 4:43pm
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Hi thanks for the info .l take it it is an easy change if l could find an installation diagram to show exactly how it works etc.anyone help??

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28/9/2015 at 9:35am
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The pressurised system is very easy.
On your current set-up, the taps are simply turning the pump on/off, but all this is simply done by the pressure switch being inline between your 12v and the pump inlet.



You should already have a negative (-) supply at the pump as generally the positive switching will be done via the taps micro-switches. You'll need to provide a positive (+) supply to where you want to install the pressure switch; you could simply remove the two wires from the sink tap and join together (disconnect and insulate the wiring from other tap too); this will provide a permanent 12v at the pump inlet, so disconnect this wire from housing and use this as your +12v to pressure switch.

The drawing I've posted is crude (knocked up quickly), but fundamentally illustrates what you need to achieve regarding wiring. I would assume there's already a fuse in the circuit (check first), in which case this isn't difficult at all and the only other hardware needed is the switch itself and a surge damper.

Bear in mind that the pressure switch needs adjusting for proper operation, and you need to ensure your system is leak free i.e., all inlet seals in place, inlet in good condition etc.

The only "fly in the ointment" could be the taps though. If these have any wear to the seals, they could potentially be unsuitable for use with a pressure system. With a switched system, you're less likely to be aware of any seal failure as the pump is turned off by the taps micro-switches directly. However on the pressured system, as this is controlled via the pressure switch itself, any leak will trigger the switch and the pump will run.

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28/9/2015 at 4:54pm
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Thanks everyone especially Paul for simplifying the circuit.now own 30psi pressure pump just have to fit it!

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