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22/11/2008 at 1:32pm
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Hi Matt + Lu
I bought just recently and got a very good deal, I found it better to phone round, although I started with the internet first, the problem I found was finding stock, only one shop in the country had stock left of the model I was after and I got the last one, except for the display model, which someone else bagged after me, from the same store, I am very happy with the end result, even though it took 9 weeks for the additional Sun Canopy to arrive from France, but I have all my kit now ready for 2009, roll on spring and summer, can't wait!.
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23/11/2008 at 12:10pm
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Hi Gingerlily
I can confirm prices for tents and camping equipment and most things coming out of China will be going up. The dollar and euro have added 25% to the cost of purchasing in the far east. When you work this back for the brands like outwell, vango etc it cuts their profit margin buy 50% at least. New employment laws in China have increase the costs. The Chinese goverment have taken away some nice export tax breaks for Chinese exporters. The fabrics for tents (polyester) are made out of oil and when the fabric for the 2009 tents was made the price of oil was through the roof. So all in all we will see price rises.
Ok the goverment are saying that next year there will be deflation but thats based on everything such as food, fuel and house prices. Even if the camping trade / products go up by 25% this will make no impact on the inflation figures as the camping trade is so small compared with the above products.
Now if people this year were willing to pay £300 for a tent and that tent is £400 next year i do not know if you the camper will be willing to pay the £400. It might be you still pay £300 but buy a lower spec tent ?
I hope this gives some insight into what will happen in 2009 in my humble opinion.
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Gary Cross
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23/11/2008 at 7:20pm
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Hi gingerlily.
I think Gary makes a very good point, a tent that was on my wish list untill I got the Cabanon a few weeks back, was the Outwell Wolf Lake 5, very nice Polycotton tent, Outdoorworld have the 2008 tent on offer, but list the RRP as £820, having said that they are out of stock having sold out on offer, they also list the 2009 model at a RRP of £1000 but not yet available, now that 2009 RRP is up by over 20%, which I will guess means whatever offer price comes along will be at best up by the same amount against 2008 model prices, but of course the gap colud get bigger, if the retailers margins are squeezed for 2009 against 2008, who kows, maybe Gary does, after all he does know his onion's as he is in the trade.
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25/11/2008 at 11:20am
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Hi Gingerlily
Everything you say is right, but and this is the saving grace for the camping trade.
When times are good a lot of people have holidays in Florida, spain, Greece etc, but some of them also go camping which is great for the camping trade. When times are bad the families who normally have the above two styles of holidays may cut the villa style holiday out and just go camping. People who have never camped may see it as a good way of saving money and spend £1000-£1500 on kit etc and still save on the £4000-£5000 they would normally spend on going to Florida. I know a number of people who are staying in the UK next year and have never camped but they will in 2009.
Camping is not always the holiday people take just because its cheap (sorry cheaper) which is great but when times are bad the cost can come into it and even if you spend £1000 on kit and two weeks site fees its still pretty good.
So what im going on about is the camping trade tends to do ok when times are hard. Im not saying 2009 will be a record year but we should keep going when other retailers might go under.
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Gary Cross (retailer)
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