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Subject Topic: Any thoughts on the Bailey Retreat.
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07/2/2012 at 3:52am
 Location: Polesworth Warwickshire
 Outfit: Bailey Unicorn III Valencia (LR Disco)
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Looks an interesting van for anyone who is considereing leaving a van on a site all year. Not really possible to tow the caravan for any length of time. Will it sell or will it be a white elephant?

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07/2/2012 at 6:30am
 Location: Midlands
 Outfit: Tessie and Patsy
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How do you get it from home (or wherever) to its permanent site? It's too big to tow!

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07/2/2012 at 7:21am
 Location: Skipton
 Outfit: Coachman Wanderer & Audi A6 allroad
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Looks pretty good to me. Wouldn't suit us as we go to loads of different parts of the country. But looks great for what it is designed for. I wonder if they have come up with a better solution for permanent water connection etc


07/2/2012 at 7:35am
 Location: Kent
 Outfit: ex Caravanner now Static.
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From reading round the subject, they have built the van for the Australian market where you can tow that size of van.

As they are right hand drive over there, there is no retooling for the UK market so there is no cost apart from a brochure run for marketing it in the UK.



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07/2/2012 at 12:30pm
 Location: West Lothian
 Outfit: 20 XC60 B5 18 Elegance 580
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It's neither one thing nor the other, don't quite see the point of it.

A caravan journalist that I know says the dealers are mostly all very wary of taking them.



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07/2/2012 at 12:35pm
 Location: whitstable kent
 Outfit: sterling eccles sport 584 freelander 2
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Not heard of it so had to google it, I get the idea, but I don't see it as one of their best sellers, but goodness it's beautiful inside.

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07/2/2012 at 12:40pm
 Location: Cheshire
 Outfit: Elddis Avante 636
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Apparently they are for export to Aus but also for permanent pitches in the UK - water system is unchanged as far as I can make out.  Its featured in one of the magazines this month and if I read correctly Bailey will offer a periodical pick up and drop off service (at a cost I am sure) for those who wish to move their van elsewhere at the end of a season.  I think they plan to bring out a more family friendly version later on.

Personally, I can't see it being too popular, a couple of feet here and there isn't going to give you anything nearly like the size of static, and is the extra room worth giving up the towability of a touring van for seasonal users? who knows



07/2/2012 at 4:33pm
 Location: Lancashire
 Outfit: Caravan now Sold
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at 2.5m it is designed to be sited.it will need large transport to tow it.



Post last edited on 07/02/2012 16:41:41

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08/2/2012 at 7:53am
 Location: N Wales Cheshire
 Outfit: Ace Jubilee Prestige
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I love it. We currently site our van and this would be wonderful BUT
a/ as most pitches allow for a certain width plus awning, I can see smaller sites being a bit wary
b/ resale market limited because of that limitation

Hubby hates the decor, I love it!!!



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08/2/2012 at 11:06am
 Location: Wirral
 Outfit: Swift Freestyle 520 on seasonal pitch
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They cost as much as a mobile home, but are smaller ......


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08/2/2012 at 11:07am
 Location: Lancashire
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Quote: Originally posted by murdo on 08/2/2012
I love it. We currently site our van and this would be wonderful BUT
a/ as most pitches allow for a certain width plus awning, I can see smaller sites being a bit wary
b/ resale market limited because of that limitation

Hubby hates the decor, I love it!!!


good point about the width on site.because our awning is slightly wider in width possibly about 4 inch we have had comments from two wardens because it encroaches onto the grass edge.fully agree on the grass being kept perfect and show it every respect.maybe they will need to widen the pitches to accommodate these larger vans.even the new towable vans are getting wider.

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08/2/2012 at 12:17pm
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Its the same size as the large twin axle Hobby & Tabbert etc 'vans as beloved by the travelling community. It can be legally towed on the road by a vehicle over 3.5t gvw. or any large 4x4 or van with southern Irish plates. If you leave it onsite you will need plenty of locks.


10/2/2012 at 6:51am
 Location: Yorkshire
 Outfit: Nissan 2.2 DCI & Sterling Europa 520
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Not sure the 'walk through' bathroom is a good idea - I can see issues arising there!  Not least because the toilet is slap bang next to the kitchen 

In fact, why have the bathroom there anyway? Why not an end bathroom? Would have been more spacious with only one door.  

 



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10/2/2012 at 8:31am
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Its interesting the way Bailey are marketing this caravan. All the German manufacturers offer 'vans of this size & you see plenty in the UK being towed illegally by large 4x4s & Vans under 3.5t gross. The cops don't seem to worry & one can conclude that one has more to fear from the insurance assessor in the event of an accident than the cops.

Obviously there is a market out there that Bailey want to get some of & their brochure is careful to suggest this is more likely to be a site caravan without actually stating it is illegal to tow on UK roads with any sort of usual 4x4 vehicle owned by caravanners.


10/2/2012 at 10:26am
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Wonder what the build quality will be like ?

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15/5/2012 at 3:13pm
 Location: A quiet pitch with a lovely view
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I have looked inside one of these, a Sycamore, and it is indeed a beast but lovely! Would be fab for me as I live in my van for 6+ months per year when I'm working on site. No idea how it compares to conventional twin axle vans as I have never researched that part of the market.

Having the shower and toilet mid-van but either side of the walkway means you still keep an open spacious feel to the van but the bedroom feels more separate from the rest of the van than in my current fixed bed.

Our local dealer has sold four so far. They deliver them out to the site where they will be located on a low loader.

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