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23/10/2013 at 8:27pm
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Will PayPal not refund the cash?


23/10/2013 at 8:34pm
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How did you pay for the FC ?

Im not trying to add further embarrasment but hopefully others can learn from your bad experience.


23/10/2013 at 8:37pm
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A lot of it is down to gut instinct and common sense.

We saw an FC on Gumtree and contacted the seller who happened to be a guy that was setting himself up, dealing in FC's and working from home.

He seemed genuine to us and he supplied us with a lot of pictures and information and over a period of time and discussions back and forth, common sense told us that this guy was kosher.

We negotiated a deposit so that he would bring the FC north 150 miles and we would drive the 150 miles south and meet him on a campsite near Carlisle.

We saw the unit up. He slept in it overnight while we stayed locally B&B. In the morning we gave him cash and then he showed us how it was all packed up.

Yes, we took a chance sending him the deposit and the only "security check" I could do from this end was to look up his address on Google Earth and that looked like the place where the original pics had been taken.

Since then I have sold the FC and I did so on the same arrangement that we had with the original buyer.

Both the buying of the FC and the selling of it worked out well for all concerned and everyone was happy all round.

We have since bought a caravan and sold a Park Home, again through Gumtree and on both occasions they were cash transactions.
I trust Cash. I do not trust any other form of transaction.



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23/10/2013 at 10:02pm
 Location: Sheffield
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Quote: Originally posted by Queenbeeshive on 23/10/2013
I've been looking on ebay for a FC recently (more window shopping than actually looking to buy just yet) How on earth can you tell which are genuine and which are scams? What should I look for? I would be devastated if, when we finally are able to buy one, that we get scammed and lose our money :(

Hi,     The main check is to have a look at their feedback .I  mean a real good look at the items they have bought and sold and the dates .They  usually offer delivery and want to deal outside ebay . Do not buy without looking, ask for any proof of ownership .Ask for landline phone numbers and not mobile .Do not part with the cash till you have the camper.

Have a look at past threads "scams" for more tips

hope this helps gcb

 



24/10/2013 at 7:58am
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I think one give away to a scam is when they say they will deliver the item.......
A usual one is the item is for sale in Northern Scotland miles from anywhere.
I read somewhere on here that the interested buyer had told a scammer that that was okay because the buyer lived in Scotland and could visit easily. The scammer changed his story very quickly.
If you are paying thousands of pounds of hard earned money then I think in the case of a private sale cash is the only way to go......

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25/10/2013 at 8:28pm
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The other things I noticed about the original scam I found as well as them saying they would deliver were:

Price was dirt cheap - if it sounds too good to be true it usually is.

They would deliver AFTER payment was cleared and wanted my email and seemed to want to deal off e-bay. I don't mind paying cash and not using paypal, but I want to meet them get the keys etc and physically get the camper and want to see their bill of sale/proof of ownership first.

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25/10/2013 at 8:29pm
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Oh and also I got a signed receipt/transfer of sale to me on the one I bought. so that when one day I sell I can prove I am the rightful owner to a prospective buyer.

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28/10/2013 at 2:17pm
 Location: North Wales
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think im being scammed too... Selling my Jamet Montana on here and on ebay and had a couple of emails from a strange looking email addy,, so went with it,, and replied,, and now i have had this in my inbox..
I acknowledge your message and Thanks for your swift respond,just to inform you that i very okay with the price. I am not in position for collection but i have my SHIPPER that will come over for the pick up from your location as soon as we seal this Transaction from your end.

Do e-mail me your FULL NAME For the payment arrangement, i will be paying by bank draft and i will wait for the cheque to clear before the pick up from your location.My wife will issue you a cheque and it will take 3 business days for the cheque to be credited into your account. And as soon as you receive the cheque kindly take it to your bank and have it deposited for clearance,You are to deduct the selling price and the different will be for the delivery man who will come to your home address for the pickup .do e-mail me the following detail:

FULL NAME ON CHEQUE:
CONTACTED ADDRESS:
MOBILE & LADLINE PHONE NUMBER:

For the cheque to be made out to you. Hope to read from you soonest.I locate in Ireland Belfast.
Regards,2
NB:- I will wait for the cheque to cleared in your account before the pick up.Also i will like you to have the advert deleted with compensation £20.

the email is from a Silva michel....

seems to be a scam to me,, so i have just replied with this......




(hope it makes you laugh)




hi,, does your SHIPPER have a military grade towing hitch on their vehicular mode of transport to tow the 3 storey trailer? I only ask as i would hate for you not to get your creamy filled trailer tent because of some scooby doo delay...

Before we continue with the Transaction and i give you my details can you confirm the above and make sure that the bankers draft is ok to go through an Iranian bank, you`ll probably need to write it in Hebrew to speed up the banks clearance of the Cheque your wife is going to bring...

many thanks..

Mr M Mouse...


28/10/2013 at 2:41pm
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looks like a normal ebay transaction to me:)


28/10/2013 at 5:05pm
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Dear scud4984

Brilliant!!

Love it when scammers are found out.

You will have to let us know if they reply.

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28/10/2013 at 5:16pm
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Will do... I am going to play them at their game... My missus works with charities protecting elderly againgst scams... She has all the info on this an hopefully it will protect others ...


29/10/2013 at 8:00am
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Quote: Originally posted by scud4984 on 28/10/2013
Will do... I am going to play them at their game... My missus works with charities protecting elderly againgst scams... She has all the info on this an hopefully it will protect others ...
Don't know why, but I got the impression you were a much younger person  


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As well is two words!
How does a sage know everything about everything? or does he? or does he just think he does?
Remember, if you buy something you bought it, not brought it.


29/10/2013 at 12:39pm
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I recently saw a caravan on eBay which was almost half what it was worth. What I noticed about it was the pictures which I'd seen on another ebay advert.

Apart from the price the ad looked legit. The ebay account was also ok with good feedback. The ad was removed the next day and I suspect that somebody's account had been hijacked .

To re-iterate all the other great advice. Always view first before parting with cash. If a deposit has to be sent use PayPal. Stay clear of anything that you cannot collect.


29/10/2013 at 2:08pm
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Lol blueexpo.. I am not quite ready for the zimmerframe.. still in my 40s :-)



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