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Quote: Originally posted by veema on 09/9/2014

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Quote: Originally posted by Katieep on 09/9/2014I do wonder why the caravaners feel the need to try and convert the TT and FC owners? Trying to justify their expensive, fuel guzzling, road blocking purchases perhaps (living on the edge of the Lake District I can think of more than 1 journey ruined through being stuck behind an inexperienced caravan / motorhome driver.)

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I go camping because in the evening I can sit round Campfire/ BBQ with my family or sit under canvas listening to the rain, playing games or sit outside chatting to other campers. Always a bit perplexed when I go past the caravans with the TV on? Whats that about? You're camping for goodness sake. Get out and enjoy the clean air rather than worrying about the drafts- stay in a cottage if you want it to feel like home. For me it just sums up all thats wrong with the world - driving to a field in the beautiful countryside and sitting in a manmade, environmentally unfriendly plastic box, and watching the TV - madness !

Post last edited on 09/09/2014 07:32:42

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This is a very blinkered view of caravanning. We sit outside, we barbecue, we don't have a telly in the caravan at all (we only have one telly at home!)...but if people want to go and sit in their caravan and watch telly, what's the problem? Its about getting away and having a break, it doesn't matter how you do it!

I don't really think anyone is trying to convert anyone else...as has already been pointed out, its a pros and cons thing...people's observations...I don't think my caravan is any better than your tent...I don't feel the need to try to convince you to try a caravan. I like my caravan, it makes me and my family very happy when we are away in it. Some people like the back to nature element of tenting without luxury, some of us enjoy a few more home comforts...it wouldn't do for us all to be the same.

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Quote: Originally posted by Miserly on 09/9/2014I more curious as to where katieeps tent comes from,after complaining about caravans being man made. It couldn't have grown on a tree,our tenting friends are sitting around outside burning them,in an environmentally friendly way of course. At least caravans ARE man(or woman) made,not produced by child labour and transported half way round the world like a lot of tents.I have to agree about the telly though!

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Quote: Originally posted by Katieep on 10/9/2014

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Quote: Originally posted by Miserly on 09/9/2014I more curious as to where katieeps tent comes from,after complaining about caravans being man made. It couldn't have grown on a tree,our tenting friends are sitting around outside burning them,in an environmentally friendly way of course. At least caravans ARE man(or woman) made,not produced by child labour and transported half way round the world like a lot of tents.I have to agree about the telly though!

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Is more the amount of petrol that it takes to get them to their destinations where (and I admit its not everyone!) some then sit inside watching TV! that is my issue. But looking at carbon footprint I would be shocked and very surprised if a Polycotton tent has anywhere near the footprint as a caravan - but if anyone has the figures I'd be happy to be proved wrong!

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Quote: Originally posted by eddiewin88 on 09/9/2014

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Quote: Originally posted by Katieep on 09/9/2014

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Quote: Originally posted by eddiewin88 on 09/9/2014

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So why do we all think the summers are less sunny than before? <<
Because we have eyes??

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Please look at the facts

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As I said, I have a collection of VHS camera tapes dating back to 1984 - the majority of them detailing camping holidays from 1985 to 1999 (when I unwisely pointed the camera at the eclipse, and destroyed the iris).

I recently spent many hours digitising them, and watched them carefully for capture and editing purposes. It really is remarkable just how good the weather was during those summers - it's not just memory, it's video evidence.

In fact, when my daughter, now married with children of her own, saw some of the footage her spontaneous comment was, "We don't seem to have those sort of summers these days"

She is right. We don't.

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Quote: Originally posted by OliverDay on 10/9/2014

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Quote: Originally posted by eddiewin88 on 09/9/2014

Quote: Originally posted by Katieep on 09/9/2014

Quote: Originally posted by eddiewin88 on 09/9/2014So why do we all think the summers are less sunny than before? <<

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Because we have eyes??

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Please look at the facts

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As I said, I have a collection of VHS camera tapes dating back to 1984 - the majority of them detailing camping holidays from 1985 to 1999 (when I unwisely pointed the camera at the eclipse, and destroyed the iris).

I recently spent many hours digitising them, and watched them carefully for capture and editing purposes. It really is remarkable just how good the weather was during those summers - it's not just memory, it's video evidence.

In fact, when my daughter, now married with children of her own, saw some of the footage her spontaneous comment was, "We don't seem to have those sort of summers these days"

She is right. We don't.

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I'm with eddiewin88 on this one.

When you look back at old photos all the children are wearing shorts, meaning that it was hotter then. Look at all the shops in the old photos they all had sun canopies, meaning the sun used to shine back then. Our local park used to have a paddling pool for the kids to splash about in, but that got filled in because it was too cold.

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Quote: Originally posted by OliverDay on 10/9/2014

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But you can't explain the shorts can you. Also there were less cars because it was warm and dry enough to walk every where. Just look at the old photos if you want the facts.

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Quote: Originally posted by Katieep on 10/9/2014

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Mind you it was so hot up here over the summer, saw a bloke in Keswick with nothing but a pair of speedos on and a skimpy T-shirt

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