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Subject Topic: Cutting out draughts in a FC
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07/5/2012 at 10:48pm
 Location: Argyll Scotland
 Outfit: 1997 Bailey Ranger 470 4
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On the Pathfinder the beds are at each end and the smaller bed/main unit gap, I have sealed just using stick on foam draught excluder.

On the other, bigger bed, the gap is much wider and for that one I carry some Pipe Insulation that I cut down to two foot lengths and I put his in place after erecting the unit.
This double as a comfort zone because the edge of the main unit would cut into the back of the wife's legs as she climbed into bed.

That pipe insulation could also be used to put around the edge of the beds before you pull the canvas down and in under to put the elastic cord in place.

It is basically a foam tube with a slit along it to wrap around a water pipe and it comes in various diameter, depending on the diameter of the pipe. You will find it in the plumbing section of any DIY Store. It is udsually in Black or Grey.

I have been hand sewing 50mm wide Velcro to the bottom half of my porch awning this weekend.
Got fingers like Mince now.

The magnets that I am using on the top half are working well. Now I will stick the other half of the Velcro to the main body and stitch the rest to the awning skirt.

It may not seal all the draughts from the porch, but it will cut out 95%.
It will also keep the dogs in.



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08/5/2012 at 12:05pm
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can I check where/how you put the foam Lobby?  We had a lot of problems with draughts this weekend.   I assume that you are putting the foam around the wood base of the bedboards, on the inside of the camper width wise, to seal that area.  Is that the case?  I am not sure that we could fit the pipe lagging there as the gap is not more than a cm wide. 

 We found that the big bed is  not too bad as the camper top cover, in its rolled up position, (ready for putting up the unit) tends to block this gap.  For us the worse bit was at the sofa end coming up under the bedboard gap there and there was quite a serious draught.  I am thinking of cutting a strip of canvas/tarp, and adding velcro to the bed end and along the wall (where the little table is) to then stick down the tarp.  Though if pipe lagging will fit there instead that might be easier. 

the other area we had a real problem with was where the gas struts stop the camper canvas from being tight against the boards and there is quite a large gap there, again more noticeable at the seat end, maybe because that is where we sitt every evening lol.  At least in bed we are covered.  Any ideas for that gap?



08/5/2012 at 12:26pm
 Location: Argyll Scotland
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The big bed bit has, as you say, the rolled up cover there to stop draughts, but the pipe lagging I also put there is basically to save the backs of Mrs Lobey's legs as she gets into bed.

On the smaller bed, where the wee table is, I have used a foam draught excluder strip, like you have on household doors, that is stuck to the vertical side of the plastic strip that goes along the top of the main unit.
The bed board "should" sit against this when the bed is unfolded, but it does not. There is, as you say, about a one centimeter gap. So the sticky part of the draught excluder is on the vertical plastic main frame and the bed lies aginst the non sticky side.

As for the gas struts gap, at the moment we are just using bits of foam rubber stuffed up into the gap from the outside, once the unit is built up.

I still have not solved all the draughts, but each year they are getting a little less.



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10/6/2012 at 1:31pm
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I have found another use for the Pipe Lagging.

Yesterday I tried a 7" length of 15mm lagging around the part of the Gas Strut that passes through the gag in the canvas side wall and this seals the gap in the canvas there and in doing so, should eleminate the draught that we get along the backs of our heads when we are sitting on the bench seats.

I have now cut four 7 inch lengths of this pipe and will fit these to the gas struts before clipping the canvas under the beds.

These lengths of tubing will be kept by the door for easy access for when we are erecting the unit.



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10/7/2012 at 7:34pm
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We are now back from our first trip using the Pipe Insulation on the Gas Struts and they are, without a doubt, one of the best Mods I have done. They worked a treat.

No more draughts along the back of our necks when sitting on the Bench seating!

Even on the windiest of evenings there was little air movements and those that were there were coming from the small gap that is left between the vertical canvas walls and where the canvas folds under the bed board.
These I will eleminate with some foam rubber squares before the next trip.

I am really pleased with the Pipe Lagging. I had a length of it lying doing nothing in the workshop anyway and it is rare these days that I do a mod that achieves so much and yet costs so little.



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10/7/2012 at 7:58pm
 Location: West Yorks
 Outfit: Gobur Carousel
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Hi Lobey, I hope you don't mind me chipping in and I haven't read all through this thread.

I've just made a side and front skirt for my Cabanon Venus as my O.H. found it a bit drafty sitting in our awning at night. The problem was that one side and the front were open to the elements and this drew air in under the rear of the trailer if the wind changed direction. I hope we're going off next week, so I'll post pictures on return, with and without the skirt.

The material I used was a rubber backed linen acquired from a local firm that makes Carding machine belts and the eyelets bought for £299 from a shop in Wakefield.

As for the pipe lagging, I use that on the corner brackets to prevent rubbing and holes being worn in the cover. Good stuff, innit?

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10/7/2012 at 8:16pm
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I do hope those eyelets were less than two hundred and ninety nine pounds!!!!

I like your A-frame box!
Much better access than the piddly doors we have on our front locker, but with the beds the way they are on the FC, we couldn't use your type of door.

I'd love to see the pics of your skirt.

Yes pipe lagging is amazing stuff and I wonder how many meters of the stuff is actually used for things other than lagging pipes.



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11/7/2012 at 9:52am
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   Bloody keyboard!

Unfortunately, all that brass I spent on the front box has made it too heavy, but I got a lightweight galvanised one (at the right price) from a mate.

To give you an idea of the skirt, it's got eyelets along the top at the same spacing as the cover hooks with elastic bungee cord running through it, and pegging eyelets on the base. A gap has been cut out for the A - frame and also the door.

I only hope it works or I'm dead.


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11/7/2012 at 12:11pm
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<<< Goodbye tension, hello Pension! >>>

I persuaded my boss that I needed a dress rehearsal for retirement and so I retired at 50.

Now, 15 years later, and I am ready to try the real thing. I just hope the rehearsals were worth it and I can play the part with confidence.



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11/7/2012 at 2:00pm
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Happy 65th Birthday Lobey, 'Old Boy '  

From us Coastwalkers.



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11/7/2012 at 3:16pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Coast walkers on 11/7/2012

Happy 65th Birthday Lobey, 'Old Boy '  

From us Coastwalkers.


Och it's a bit past now but many thanks.

Now that I've got my Bus Pass, do you think I could persaude the local bus company to put a towbar on the back of their buses?



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