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18/9/2008 at 4:53pm
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I cannot help you regarding Italy but don't dismiss the UK altogether.
Due to sessions in hospital, we only managed 2 caravan trips this summer, one of 10 nights on the north west Scottish Coast in July and 26 nights in Skye and the Western Isles in August.
During both, we had just 2 days of drizzly rain that did not warrant the raincoats coming out of the drawer. Apart from those nights where we were dressed for dinner out, we wore t-shirts, shorts and sandals for the entire summer.
Camping, as a holiday, does lend itself to waiting to see where the weather is best and then just going there. So unless you have particular needs or wants, it is possible to still get the nice carefree summer holidays and still return with a suntan.

Our last morning. The beach on the island of Barra.
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18/9/2008 at 9:34pm
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British camping holidays are best suited to the retired in my opinion. You need to be able to watch the weather forecast then just go, returning when conditions change. Its hopeless trying to pre-book a fortnight under canvas unless you truly enjoy being cold and damp (and I think those who say they do are kidding themselves).
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18/9/2008 at 11:39pm
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RivaDan, I accept what you're saying but we're a few years off retirement and with school age children generally have to book well in advance for the school holiday periods.
We went to France this year, had good weather and really enjoyed our holiday.
However I can honestly say that we also enjoy camping in the UK to. We like to be able to visit different areas of our own country. The weather isn't always bad either.
I don't like the cold and damp but our only really bad weather experience was last July in Devon. We set off down the M5 early on the Saturday morning not realising Gloucester was under-water and the M5 closed. It took us 10 hours to get from Cheshire to mid Devon. It rained most of the week and we could feel the mud squelching under the tent. Our fancy new poly-cotton tent got covered in mud. We packed up the wet tent at the end of the week. When we got home we had to pitch it again to clean all the mud off and dry it out.
When we thought about it, despite the weather we actually still enjoyed our holiday but it was all the difficulties of the time taken to pitch the tent, mud and cleaning and drying the tent that casued us problems.
We sold the tent and bought a Dandy Designer. For us the Dandy has been a really good choice.
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19/9/2008 at 1:20am
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I understand what you are saying regarding us retired yins having all the time in the world to go camping etc etc, however, in reality, retirement is not like that, as you will find out yourself one day. Our holidays this year were squeezed in between hospital commitments and although we knew where we wanted to go, we did not know dates until the last minute.
When we tried to book campsites at the last minute and despite it being the height of the season, we were surprised to be told that they did not accept bookings. Only one campsite out of 7 wanted a £20 deposit and only then would take a booking. All the rest was a case of turn up and if there is room, you can have a pitch.
So, even in high season, unless you want a particular campsite in a particular area, there really is nothing to stop you deciding at the last minute, where you fancy trying to camp. Where does the weather look good and settled, take a list of campsites for that area and go for it.
Bring a little adventure and freedom back into your camping.
------------- Lobey.
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19/9/2008 at 7:48am
Location: West Yorkshire Outfit: 2 Sterlings 1 tin 1 canvas
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Not stayed in the Folding camper but did got to Italy on a coach holidays in my 20`s. The campsite was near to Venice, we could catch a bus to Lido de Jesslo or into Venice. I remember the site being fantastic, there were shops, bars and a swimming pool, alot nicer than the ones then in the uk. Only thing though is the beach and sea had lots of algee.
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Thanks for that. Deffinately on for next year. I see there is a motorail service from the Netherlands to northern Italy. Ferry from Newcastle to Ijmuden, then train overnight. Can't wait!
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19/9/2008 at 10:18am
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Quote: Originally posted by Travel Bug on 19/9/2008
Not stayed in the Folding camper but did got to Italy on a coach holidays in my 20`s. The campsite was near to Venice, we could catch a bus to Lido de Jesslo or into Venice. I remember the site being fantastic, there were shops, bars and a swimming pool, alot nicer than the ones then in the uk. Only thing though is the beach and sea had lots of algee.
We did the Lido de Jesolo 2 years ago by coach.
We were in a hotel but we looked at the campsite for future holidays. As you say, it had everything. The town was good too for shopping and the beaches were clear, no Algee.
Indeed there are now Web Cams for these beaches at http://www.swisswebcams.ch/english/popup_zoom.php?wid=1144065404 and http://www.janeirohotel.com/en/webcams.htm
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19/9/2008 at 11:19am
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Quote: Originally posted by LobeyDosser on 19/9/2008
I understand what you are saying regarding us retired yins having all the time in the world to go camping etc etc, however, in reality, retirement is not like that, as you will find out yourself one day. Our holidays this year were squeezed in between hospital commitments and although we knew where we wanted to go, we did not know dates until the last minute.
I apologise as I didn't mean to imply that retired people's time is less valuable than anyone elses. I take your point that it's not always necessary to book. We have usually booked in advance but like you have found many sites don't want a deposit. They usually just ask us to let them know if we aren't coming.
Still the original poster wanted to know about Italy. We've never driven that far but a few years ago had a holiday in the Lake Garda area. If I was to go camping in Italy I would like to head back there as it's a lovely area.
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19/9/2008 at 2:23pm
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>>> I apologise as I didn't mean to imply that retired people's time is less valuable than anyone elses. <<<
Hi Steve, no apology necessary. I wasn't pulling you up about that or anything else!
We passed Lake Garda on our way home and it looked beautiful. Indeed there were many area that we passed through on that coach and they all looked like they could have made potentially nice places to return with the caravan.
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19/9/2008 at 3:22pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Rivadan on 18/9/2008
British camping holidays are best suited to the retired in my opinion. You need to be able to watch the weather forecast then just go, returning when conditions change. Its hopeless trying to pre-book a fortnight under canvas unless you truly enjoy being cold and damp (and I think those who say they do are kidding themselves).
That is why we can't wait until we retire next year. There is the whole of the UK to explore when the weather is good. But up til now most of our camping has been done in France. I just HATE camping in the wet and cold. But I LOVE camping.
On the Italy thing we rented a cottage in Tuscany a few years ago for our 25th. It was a long way, but take it gently. We stopped a night in Calais, Mannheim and Trento. 2 weeks in tuscany, then round to Nice for a few nights and Motorailed back to Calais. Well, it was for the silver wedding.
The Autostrada are just awful - 2 narrow lanes and very few stopping places which get very jammed in the middle of the day. There are special towing speed limits which are quite low, I think. And the Italians love their camper vans so it is very easy to get stuck in a stream of them with nothing to see except for white plastic. Apparently the pitches can be quite small on Italian sites, too.
But Italy is just wonderful.
Alan
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20/9/2008 at 8:58pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Travel Bug on 17/9/2008
We too are fed up only managed 6 weekends away and it look like thats all were getting.Normally been away 10 -15. We too are starting to look at caravans as winters seem to be dryer than summers.
I have only managed two trips away one weekend fantastic hottest one of the year and a week at a Christian conference at Detling outside Maidstone Planning for next year going to buy a quikstop and flee when the weather is nice and come home as soon as it looks like changing bet we get away more next year
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20/9/2008 at 9:00pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Steve McV on 17/9/2008
We have had scorching holidays in Brittany, but got very wet this your in the Loire Whit week. Got wet in Toulouse last year too, wet in Spain also, BUT it is WARM when wet over there!
Warm and wet not a concept I am familiar with
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Quote: Originally posted by LobeyDosser on 19/9/2008
I understand what you are saying regarding us retired yins having all the time in the world to go camping etc etc, however, in reality, retirement is not like that, as you will find out yourself one day.
Our holidays this year were squeezed in between hospital commitments and although we knew where we wanted to go, we did not know dates until the last minute. When we tried to book campsites at the last minute and despite it being the height of the season, we were surprised to be told that they did not accept bookings.
Only one campsite out of 7 wanted a £20 deposit and only then would take a booking. All the rest was a case of turn up and if there is room, you can have a pitch. So, even in high season, unless you want a particular campsite in a particular area, there really is nothing to stop you deciding at the last minute, where you fancy trying to camp.
Where does the weather look good and settled, take a list of campsites for that area and go for it. Bring a little adventure and freedom back into your camping.
i am retired/disabled and have trouble getting away so much to do no time to do it LOL
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21/9/2008 at 10:15pm
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well we decided we are going back to France next year for 2 weeks and maybe England for weekends if we are lucky
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Hi Steve
It is I Tim, of the pooling awning roof!!!
We went to Italy in 2006 and 2007. We went with our 7.2 caravans both times - but changed 'vans so different ones for each of the years.
We loved Italy although it is a long way to drive. We went from Dunkerque via autoroutes France, Belgium, Luxembourg, then back into France and across the N66 and over the Rhine into Germany near Mulhouse before crossing into Switzerland. That way no tolls on the autoroutes but have to buy Swiss annual autoroute vignettes for car AND caravan - pretty expensive. Then through Switzerland, a truly spectacular country and through St Gotthard tunnel (11 miles long so be warned if like me you don't like tunnels much) and then southwards into Italy. We went over the St Gotthard Pass one year when the tunnel was very congested. Not a bad road long hairpins up and down with a flat stretch on the "top". We came back via Brenner Pass motorway in 2007 - an easy route but you have to pay the pass toll and the Austrian autoroute toll vignette. The latter is, however, only charged on the car and can be bought for periods like 10 days so much cheaper than the Swiss one.
The first year we stayed at Camping La Riva at the northern end of Lake Como and then on to Camping Cavallino on the Jesolo Peninsula near Venice. In 2007 similar route but we stopped first at Camping Roma Sport Flash at Bracciano which was only a train journey into Rome and then moved back up to Camping Riva di San Pietro on Lake Iseo. All of these sites were good and I've put reviews of all 4 in the campsite search section of this website.
We had generally excellent weather in Italy but the Lakes area is known for its sudden violent storms. At Lake Como our awning blew onto the roof of the 'van damagint the alloy poles badly. We were just taking it down because of the storm warning.
We love Italy a beautiful, warm country with friendly people. We tended not to book our pitches, just phone ahead on the day before but we still managed to get good pitches. Italian site pitches do tend to be small and they certainly pack them in but we managed to to find places suitable for our big 'vans. The Italian autoroutes are all toll roads generally of good quality but the Italian drivers are NOT tolerant of slow moving tow-ers and quick to use their horns. The autoroute services tend to be small and are often full. In France we sometimes stay on aires overnight when travelling - it was not easy to do this in Italy.
Anyway I've gone on enough. I hope that helps. Have a look at my, and others, reviews of Italian sites on in the Campsite section. I find Alan Rogers "Italy" and Caravan Club "Caravan Europe" guides very useful for findig sites too.
If you have any specific questions just post again.
Best wishes
Tim
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