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Subject Topic: Has C&CC lost interest in it`s members?
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09/10/2008 at 8:57am
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Warm & friendly everyone.  Your view Rex are just that.  They are based on facts as you have experienced them.  My experience is different.


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Well said Steve. I agree.

Ray



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Quote: Originally posted by Steve McV on 09/10/2008Warm & friendly everyone.  Your view Rex are just that.  They are based on facts as you have experienced them.  My experience is different.
Hi steve Sorry this is not just my view. I am a member who recommends others to join the C&C Club. Your answer to my comments are just your personal view and obviously do not comprehended what my statements were about. Discussion is to get to the bottom of a subject and constructive criticism is just that,constructive and not having a go at the club. the present club is without any doubt acting unfair to tent campers in the quality of the pitches on majority of club sites, tents are the only unit that can not level their unit to sleep on the level,most level well drained pitches have been turned into unsutable piches for tents, and they have to camp on piches that have far too much slope on them [[See the top piture in my gallery were I have had to use a 4" house bricks to level my kitch stand]],they are also put onto pitches that flood. they are expected to pitch on saturated ground,they do not have one purpose made all weather pitch that is suitable for modern day tents with SIG. Is that my opinion no that is 100% the truth of the matter, and until other members stop just thinking of themselves, that is the way your fellow member who camp in tents will have to camp on club pitches.
Even privately own sites are now providing AWP for tents
what excuse as a club who's duty it is, to treat all members as equell, None. please answer these true facts.
Regards
Rex
Yes the are welcoming and friendly are most that is why I am a member but the way they are run from the top ???

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09/10/2008 at 1:01pm
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Hi - as a tin tent man I hope you don't mind me making a comment.

I joined the C&CC this year in order to have a "known minimum standard" when visiting sites have also stayed on some good quality private sites.

Don't understand why the club sites need to completely close facilities for cleaning when on the private sites I have stayed they are left open whilst being cleaned and have still been immaculate whenever I have used them.

Although a long time since I have stayed in a tent my impression after 1 season touring is that the C&CC seems too involved with static and lodge development on sites and is not investing enough in the tent & touring side in order to keep up with market expectations.

We all know the weather in this country so more should be done on pitch drainage, all weather pitches etc.



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09/10/2008 at 1:41pm
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Hi Tony
You have seen what most tent member know and you are 100% correct. As for the toilet situation that fall in with rules and regulation for both clubs if you have a week to spare you can read them all .
All the best
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09/10/2008 at 4:04pm
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Rex
I know I should not be posting in this section as I know nothing about trailer tents or folding campers but I just thought I would put you right on one point:-

The C&CC have at least one site, Blackmore, that has AWP that are suitable for tents. We stayed there in our caravan in April this year and were directed to one of their grass hardstandings as we needed to use an awning. The grass has a kind of plastic mesh under it that means it is easy to peg a tent (or awning) but it does not get muddy, drains extremely well and is level. This is the sort of material that is often used under grass car parking areas so it is also very strong and hardwearing.


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Hi FB
Thank you that is good to know, we stayed at blackmoor one Christmas years ago when we had caravans, nice site .
Well I will update my quote the C&C Club as one site with all weather pitches suitable for tents, but they are really necessary for all units at the 365 days a year site that really as boggy ground as we found out when we stayed there,But I can assure you FB they were not put there for tents
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09/10/2008 at 9:06pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Fat Bum on 09/10/2008

The C&CC have at least one site, Blackmore, that has AWP that are suitable for tents. We stayed there in our caravan in April this year and were directed to one of their grass hardstandings as we needed to use an awning. The grass has a kind of plastic mesh under it that means it is easy to peg a tent (or awning) but it does not get muddy, drains extremely well and is level. This is the sort of material that is often used under grass car parking areas so it is also very strong and hardwearing.

Interesting that a TT owner went on a hell of a rant about these pitches recently (I like them!) saying they were not suitable & that he preferred gravel or concrete.  I did ask how he put his pegs in at the time.  Suffice to say you can please some of the people some of the time...

You know the rest.  It takes all sorts.



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Quote: Interesting that a TT owner went on a hell of a rant about these pitches recently (I like them!) saying they were not suitable & that he preferred gravel or concrete.  I did ask how he put his pegs in at the time.  ]


Rant? What I actually said was :

If you book a hardstanding pitch do you expect it to be hard? We recently booked 2 hardstandings at Kingsbury Water Park and ended up on grass pitches that had a plastic mesh set below the surface. The Wardens reply when I queried it was "this is the only type of hardstanding left, the other sort are all full". With a folding camper and a trailer tent this was less than ideal, so what do most people expect when they book hardstanding?

Very strange response. Oh and I think we adequately covered the fact that putting pegs in was easy, caravanners go it for their awnings all the time.


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ba.roberts,why are those type of hardstandings no good for TT's or FC's.I would have thought they were fine?


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The point was not that they aren't suitable, in fact they are in the right circumstances. My particular point was that I had booked a hardstanding because we knew that the weather would be inclement (understatement to say the least) and also because my daughter and her husband were in a TT with a puppy that loved to dig and a 3 year old with the normal healthy fascination that 3 year olds have for mud and puddles. Past experience of using solid hardstandings with an FC and a TT, and having no trouble with pegging it out despite Steve McV's concerns, led me to feel that this was the best option for the circumstances. As it was when we arrived there were no more solid hard standings left just the grass mesh pitches. After a few days of virtually constant rain these degenerated into mudbaths as I feared they would.
If you look here you will see the rest of the topic where I raised the question of what should you expect if you book a hard standing. Personally I feel that the grass and mesh pitches are better described as all weather pitches (mind you that is probably still wrong with this years weather)


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Hi
The pitch in question is not a hard standing, the only reason the mesh is laid,is to stop units digging in with their wheels. No way can this type of pitch be considers an hard standing or an all weather pitch, the mesh is only there to protect the pitch and not to make a pitch, that is designed to protect the units from mud or flood.
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Thanks Rex, that was my point exactly. I'd booked a hardstanding and didn't see how the mesh pitch was supposed to be one.


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Hello again BA, lets not get too heated with this again, refering to Fat Burns post that I quoted & note what he says.  My point was that people want different things & that a large club site.is unlikely to satisfy all people when they are busy.  As for Rex, I quite agree about these plastic re enforced pitches being unsuitable for tents.  What are needed are nice dry, flat grass pitches without caravans & motorhomes on them.  As for the two sides agreeing, I can't see how as you both seem to be asking for different things - both with good reason!



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