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Subject Topic: Still confused re: towing Post Reply Post New Topic
14/12/2008 at 8:53pm
 Location: Stockport
 Outfit: Trigano Modular
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Hi All

Just bought my first TT and have been assured by the guys at Camperlands that my little Saxo will tow it no problem.

But after reading loads of stuff regarding weights I'm still unclear how it all works. Can anyone clarify for me please?

Saxo kerb weight is 805kg and max. laden weight is 1310kg. Max. towing weight for unbraked trailer is 400kg.

Can I load car and trailer to these weights? I've read somewhere that loading car reduces allowed weight of trailer.

Max. train weight for unit is 1910kg



14/12/2008 at 9:45pm
 Location: nottingham
 Outfit: Grand Canyon 8 Pennine Fiesta
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  Hi,dave57, and welcome to UK Camping. You've come to the right place for advice  I would suggest that you get in touch with whichever motoring organisation you belong AA or RAC ,They have the answer to this type of question. But no doubt someone will have a web you can log on to. Good luck ..

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14/12/2008 at 10:48pm
 Location: Cheshire
 Outfit: Riva Dandy Dimension
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Welcome to ukcampsite Dave,

I've looked at the info on Camperlands own website which indicates the Trigano Modular weighs 280Kg unladen (310Kg for the one with kitchen).  There's no mention of the trailer having brakes so I'm assuming it doesn't have any.

Unladen weight is the weight of the unit before you put any of your camping gear in it.  You've said your car has a max unbraked towing weight of 400Kg which means you can add 120Kg of equipment to the basic trailer (or 90 Kg for the kitchen model). which would take you to the 400Kg mark.

The trailer itself can be loaded up to 495Kg max but only with a bigger tow car of course.

You could weigh all your equipment to be safe and make sure its less than 120Kg/90Kg in total.  If it's close perhaps consider taking the trailer loaded up to a weighbridge and make sure it weighs no more than 400Kg.

......Can I load car and trailer to these weights? I've read somewhere that loadingcar reduces allowed weight of trailer.

In your case loading the car isn't going to affect the weight of trailer you can tow.  This is because you could load the car up to its max. of 1310Kg and the trailer to the max allowed of 400Kg and the total of these would be 1310+400Kg =  1710Kg.  This is your train weight and is less than the maximum given in you post of 1910Kg.

Steve



14/12/2008 at 11:34pm
 Location: West Berkshire
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The max train weight includes everything - that means you and all passengers luggage trailer etc etc.


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You can load it, question is what will  the performance be whilst towing?  Depends on the engine size & type.  I tow with a 1.4 TDi no problems.  Acceleration & hills with a 1.0 or 1.1 may be a little slow.  Camping & Caravan Club reccomend towing no more than 85% of the cars weight.  As long as you are inside the manufacturers spec for an un-braked trailer & GTW you should be OK.  Only real way to check is by going to a weigh bridge with the car & trailer fully loaded to see what the actual figure is.

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15/12/2008 at 12:28pm
 Location: Wakefield Yorkshire
 Outfit: Conway Challenger
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I agree with all of the replies and would just add this. While you are ok legaly to tow you will experience loss of power on hills, so be ready for this and change gear early. Because your trailer is unbraked you are relying on your car brakes alone to stop your outfit. Well before you get to junctions start to ease off the accelerator and start to break gently (the trailer has the effect of pushing the car along, not holding it back so the braking distance is increased). Do keep a good distance between you and the car in front, if he brakes quickly you have your reaction time plus the outfits extra braking distance before you come to a stop.

Apart from that enjoy your new purchase, any problems and someone on here always seems to have an answer.

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15/12/2008 at 6:57pm
 Location: Stockport
 Outfit: Trigano Modular
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Thanks to all for the advice, I think i've got it now.

I think you're right about this being the place to come for answers to any problems, I can't believe the speed of the responses,

Thanks again



22/12/2008 at 7:12pm
 Location: Kent
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Quote: Originally posted by dave57 on 15/12/2008

Thanks to all for the advice, I think i've got it now.

I think you're right about this being the place to come for answers to any problems, I can't believe the speed of the responses,

Thanks again



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