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Subject Topic: Do we need an al-ko stabiliser for a TT? Post Reply Post New Topic
04/3/2009 at 12:43pm
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MyFIL (he has a folding camper) is telling me we really need to get a stabiliser for our new TT (Trigano Olympe). The guy at the shop said there's no need.

Do we need one or not?



04/3/2009 at 3:48pm
 Location: Newark Nottinghamshire
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I would say no, I've towed a TT quite happily with a standard hitch. Mind you, if you intend to travel the highways and byways of Britain far in excess of the recommended speed limits then maybe you should reconsider!



04/3/2009 at 3:55pm
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Doubt you'll need one.  The stailiser is designed to dampen snaking, this can be caused by a variety of things such as cross wind, harsh braking, draught off passing vehicles & poor distribution of load (won't cure that last one!).  As a TT is fairly light when compared to a caravan &  has a much lower centre of gravity as well as being lower, wind does not really cause a problem.  I've towed ours for 4 years now & we hardly notice it is there.

Steve.



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04/3/2009 at 5:35pm
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we do not have one never had a problem yet

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04/3/2009 at 6:18pm
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I have towed TT's and now an FT for years and never seen the need for one, I always used one with the caravan though.

Mike



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04/3/2009 at 7:20pm
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I tried a stabiliser on my FC (it was free). I used it once and never bothered again!

Glen



05/3/2009 at 8:36am
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Thanks for all your replies. I don;t think we need one either - the FIL said you can easy sneak up to 70-75mph without realising but we have cruise control so I don;t think that will be a problem. I think FIL has gone 75mph when racing for a ferry in the past tho!


06/3/2009 at 3:22pm
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luckily youl only be doing 60 then or even 50
towed lots of trailers ,boats and caravans never needed a stabiliser ,never had a snake


06/3/2009 at 6:20pm
 Location: Shropshire North Wales borders
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Well, if you are going to zoom round the country at the speed of light breaking all the legal limits then maybe you should consider one, but if you're within the legal limits (60 mph on dual carriageway or motorway and 50 mph on any other road that doesn't show otherwise) then I think you'll be fine without one.

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06/3/2009 at 8:01pm
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No I won't let my husband tear around breaking the speed limit. Thanks for your replies.


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07/3/2009 at 3:16pm
 Location: St ALBANS
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I think it unlikely that you will need a stabiliser however you don't know until you try it out.

Until we bought our camper I had never experienced snaking and I have done a fair amount of towing trailers, horse boxes, etc in the past.  Snaking is a pendulum effect that gets progressively worse unless you slow down. With our outfit it used to start at about 55 MPH.  We tried all sorts of adustments to the loading of the camper to try and eliminate it.

We bought an AKS 3004 which was well worth the money.  On the autoroutes in France we can legally drive at up to 81 MPH with our outfit and it is absolutely rock steady at these speeds.



07/3/2009 at 3:29pm
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A stabiliser won't make an inherently unstable outfit safe.

If an outfit snakes at 55 mph then it needs sorting, something is wrong, and I certainly wouldn't recommend towing it at 81 mph even with a stabilser fitted until the underlying instability has been resolved.



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07/3/2009 at 8:46pm
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Caz, to a point I agree with you.  We checked everything, The camper was almost new so their was no wear in the runnng gear and we checked our hitch weight, tyre pressures and kept weight as low as possible.  I even removed the spare tyre from the rear of the unit and stowed it temporarily in the car boot but to no avail.

It could well be that the sway starts because slight lateral movement in either the camper or car tyres?  I am changing the car tyres to a make I respect, as they wear and will probably change the camper tyres this year as they are 5 years old.

As I said before, snaking is a pendulum effect, that is a small sway develops into a bigger one with each swing.  The purpose of a friction stabiliser is to prevent that first initial movement. 

Their are many variables and theories as to why some units are more unstable than others and a lot of research is taking place at places like Bath University. In my opinion one manufacturer has gone way OTT by developing an electronically controlled differencial braking system to crack the problem!  Towball or leaf spring stabilisers are a simple and effective way of making a camper or caravan safer to tow.  That is the reason why they are sold!

Regards Bob 



08/3/2009 at 10:36am
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Could be that various vehicles also leave differing slipstreams depending on design.  Maybe what snakes on one vehicle may not on another.    Alos possibly the state of wear (or setting)  in the rear shock absorbers of the towing vehicle as well as the tyres.

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