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18/5/2009 at 11:55am
 Location: Surrey
 Outfit: Dandy 4 5 and a tent
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Hello haven't posted on here for quite a while and although we have had our old Dandy for a few years (we thought we would have upgraded to a slightly newer one by now but no!) The awning (an old canvas one specially adapted to fit) has many problems - zips wont stay done up/tears here and there and damaged poles. That it really is not practical to use it anymore but we do need the additional space.

I had bought a very cheap square tent that was approx the same size as our awning but I have never set it up in-front of the Dandy - the problem being it would have to be pitched with a gap because of the door (of the Dandy) and also for securing the tent roof . So my main question is on a campsite could I still class it as my awning? even though it really is a biggish square tent? or will I get told no I cant put it up in front of the Dandy?? We also have a large pop up tent  but this is even more obvious that it is not an awning? Does anyone else do this because they don't have an awning or don't want to put up the Dandy one? Anyone use these day tents and if so how do they get charged? (i.e. more than an awning) Any help appreciated we are off on our first trip of the season next weekend and not sure what to take with me?? 



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It does depend on the site.  As a trailer tent, you would usually be OK saying you are using it as part of the main unit.  The Camping & Caravan Club certainly have no problems with this or with "pup" tents as long as the rule abot being 6 metres from anyone elses unit isn't broken.  Private sites are a different matter.  Some charge, others don't.  Many Dandy owners use a motorhome stand alone awning.  These have a sort of bellows bit that can fasten under the roof of the camper a bit like the Dandy awning, althaugh the sides would still have a gap.  I have seen some tunnel tens with the back wall cut out & modified to fit quite well too.

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18/5/2009 at 12:36pm
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I would bodge up some sort of attachment, even if it was purely cosmetic. A few ties or something.


18/5/2009 at 2:52pm
 Location: Shropshire North Wales borders
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I used to use a Sunncamp Day Room with my Combi Camp Easy, as the awning was such a faff. Pitched it close and used one of the sides over the roof of the Combi to make it look as though it belonged (and save opening two doors/zips every time I went from one to t'other.) Never got charged extra for it, but I tend to avoid the "extra for everything" type of site.

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18/5/2009 at 5:27pm
 Location: Kent (on East Sussex border)
 Outfit: Bailey S7 Pageant Bretagne & S-Max
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Quote: Originally posted by 3spudz on 18/5/2009

Hello haven't posted on here for quite a while and although we have had our old Dandy for a few years (we thought we would have upgraded to a slightly newer one by now but no!) The awning (an old canvas one specially adapted to fit) has many problems - zips wont stay done up/tears here and there and damaged poles. That it really is not practical to use it anymore but we do need the additional space.

I had bought a very cheap square tent that was approx the same size as our awning but I have never set it up in-front of the Dandy - the problem being it would have to be pitched with a gap because of the door (of the Dandy) and also for securing the tent roof . So my main question is on a campsite could I still class it as my awning? even though it really is a biggish square tent? or will I get told no I cant put it up in front of the Dandy?? We also have a large pop up tent  but this is even more obvious that it is not an awning? Does anyone else do this because they don't have an awning or don't want to put up the Dandy one? Anyone use these day tents and if so how do they get charged? (i.e. more than an awning) Any help appreciated we are off on our first trip of the season next weekend and not sure what to take with me?? 


Hi Darren, I believe you were in Cornwall last August on the UKCS meet with Darran & Michelle, we were the hedge hoppers that wanted the luxuries of electricity!, you kindly leant us a bottle of Nurofen.

Why don't you call the campsite first and explain the situation, I am sure they would be understanding (well maybe not if it was that campsite last year - sshhh you know where I mean!!!) I have also read on here, that some people who don't have awnings for their campers use the ones that motor homes use (the drive away type), that maybe an idea for the future.

Jane



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18/5/2009 at 6:50pm
 Location: Swindon Wiltshire
 Outfit: Toyota Landcruiser Avondale Dart 556 6
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Hi Darren, you still have yer Dandy then :o), hope you are all well :o)


18/5/2009 at 7:04pm
 Location: Nottingham
 Outfit: Motorhome
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As I have said on another thread,I think campsites should think again about charging for awning Etc,they all ready charge for the pitch,so if you are in the confines of the pitch why should you have to pay any extra ???, when I have booked sites and there is a charge for my awning I ask why if its on the allocated pitch,if they say its site policy I say keep your site policy I will go elswhere that do not charge for them,also if campers add it to thier reviews the sites may reconsider not charging for them.

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18/5/2009 at 11:12pm
 Location: Surrey
 Outfit: Dandy 4 5 and a tent
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Hello all its actually the Jacki part of the spudz family! - We are all good the same cant be said for the Dandy - it only had 3 working legs when we opened her up but we have sorted out that problem - I am going to take a chance and act dumb if questioned its only for sat and sun night - I just think it does seem a funny bit of ruling that it must be attached to count as an awning when as you say it can be quite a bit smaller than some awnings but we are just using it as extra space  (not sleeping in it) we will see - we are going to Glastonbury and I hope to do the same there so this is sort of a practice run but even there I could hit problems if the person seeing us in is up on the awning rule (Yes even at Glastonbury!) - I did think about the trying to make it look as if it is joined but i cant see it looking too good and till its up I am not sure how i would do it   ..we will see..

Hoping to do a meet weekend here or there in the summer but no major plans we have one 5 day trip to the river Dart booked in August hoped to have figured out a good substitute awning by then.

Just one last quick question then - these awnings made for campervans would still go over the dandy roof OK then? the roof wouldn't be to tall ? I have been looking but as they are always shown attached to a quite low campervan I was unsure  



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19/5/2009 at 6:03am
 Location: Essex
 Outfit: Dandy Designer
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We use an Outdoor Revolution Movelite XL on our Dandy. It fits by throwing straps over the top of the Dandy, and pegging on the other side. Then there is a sort of wind tunnel flappy bit that goes slightly over the top of the roof to make it waterproof. The rest is pegged out like an awning. The only modification we had to make was to rig up a small screen for the bit along the bottom of the bedrooms but a couple of rods, a blue tarp and some elastic sorted that out.
Hope this helps.

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19/5/2009 at 7:26am
 Location: Lichfield Staffordshire
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I adapted a porch awning for our Pathfinder, it zips on and takes 10 minutes to put up



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19/5/2009 at 7:38am
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Quote: Originally posted by 3spudz on 18/5/2009

Hello all its actually the Jacki part of the spudz family! - We are all good the same cant be said for the Dandy - it only had 3 working legs when we opened her up but we have sorted out that problem - I am going to take a chance and act dumb if questioned its only for sat and sun night - I just think it does seem a funny bit of ruling that it must be attached to count as an awning when as you say it can be quite a bit smaller than some awnings but we are just using it as extra space  (not sleeping in it) we will see - we are going to Glastonbury and I hope to do the same there so this is sort of a practice run but even there I could hit problems if the person seeing us in is up on the awning rule (Yes even at Glastonbury!) - I did think about the trying to make it look as if it is joined but i cant see it looking too good and till its up I am not sure how i would do it   ..we will see..

Hoping to do a meet weekend here or there in the summer but no major plans we have one 5 day trip to the river Dart booked in August hoped to have figured out a good substitute awning by then.

Just one last quick question then - these awnings made for campervans would still go over the dandy roof OK then? the roof wouldn't be to tall ? I have been looking but as they are always shown attached to a quite low campervan I was unsure  


Ooopps! Sorry, Hi anyway, and best of luck with the awning business. After that very soggy holiday in Cornwall, we decided that maybe the tent wasn't actually for us so last September we bought a folding camper.  I think we had been spoiled by having a caravan and folding camper in the past!


19/5/2009 at 12:08pm
 Location: Shropshire North Wales borders
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Just one last quick question then - these awnings made for campervans would still go over the dandy roof OK then? the roof wouldn't be to tall ? I have been looking but as they are always shown attached to a quite low campervan I was unsure  

They come in basically two sizes - ones that fit up to 210 cms for campervans, and taller ones like the Movelite XL which will fit on to tall motorhomes. Go for the taller one so it will reach over the top of the Dandy.



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20/5/2009 at 5:54am
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Yes I agree with Caz. The Movelite goes over our Designer beautifully with three really long straps. We steered away from the ones that have to be fixed in any way to the unit because we didnt want to attempt adapting it with zips or rods. This suits us because it doesnt take long to fit and gives us 3000mm by 3000mm of extra space.

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20/5/2009 at 9:26am
 Location: Winscombe North Somerset
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We have a TT and I've been thinking of getting something like the movelite xl for weekends and stopovers - I was actually considering getting a zip to match the TT fitted, but now I'm wondering if I would just be able to fix it on with the throwover straps etc? Also, one of our little ones would be in an underbed tent - do the attachment tunnel bits go wide enough to cover the entrance to an underbed tent also? Or are they quite narrow entrances? Thanks!



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