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Subject Topic: Trailer to high at front when hitched
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09/8/2009 at 11:08am
 Location: Kennington OXFORD
 Outfit: 2005 Eccles Sterling Topaz 2 berth
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Quote: Originally posted by LobeyDosser on 08/8/2009

Find a local engineering firm and explain the problem to them.

I am sure that if you took the car and trailer to them, they could make you a spacer to fit between the A Frame of the trailer and the Coupling.




That would seem to be the way to go. The question of drop plates is, not to put a fine point on it, very odd. As said, why are they sold in such variations and quantities if illegal? We just sold our Pathfinder and the new owner went away happy but the camper was sitting up at the front quite a bit - when I picked it up from Southampton last year it was up at the front, not by much but noticeable enough to wave around some. A drop plate soon sorted that and when we went away recently it was fine.
I can't see anything wrong with modifying the camper hitch mounting to bring the unit level or fractionally down to aid aerodynamic stability.
Pete


09/8/2009 at 12:46pm
 Location: roche cornwall
 Outfit: lynton 5th wheel
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are they illegal on pre 98 cars?if its a commercial vehicle /m.home there is no aproved towbar as they are excempt. so there is a big market out there.

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09/8/2009 at 1:01pm
 Location: Argyll Scotland
 Outfit: 1997 Bailey Ranger 470 4
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I think they are legal on pre "S" cars.

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09/8/2009 at 1:13pm
 Location: Burton upon Trent
 Outfit: Dandy 4 5 1980ish plus caravanette
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Hi,

I thought that there was a standard height for the centre of the towball, something like 15 inchs. I would hope that a towbar manufacturer could tell you the exact figure. Now if you look at your trailer and its ideal towing stance and see what height the towball needs to be you could possibly sort out the problem. Have the suspension units sunk? Are the tyres incorrect, if the sidewalls are not the correct ply rating the rolling diameter when loaded could be to small? Does it actually have the right size wheels? Any of these things could cause your problem,

Regards,

Chris.



09/8/2009 at 1:29pm
 Location: Teesside
 Outfit:  Mitsubishi ASX4
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Can I repeat my earlier post.I had the same problem with our new caravan. Turned out the towbar was at the upper limit of the specifications allowed, the caravan at the lower limit. In the end I changed both the towbar and fitted spacers. I asked for advce from the towbar manufacturers, the CC and the C&CC, as well as the very reputable company I eventually got the spacers for the A frame from.

The spacers have been on the caravan for some 6000 miles of touring, with no problems whatsoever, and unlike drop plates, this is perfectly legal and would not invalidate the insurance of either the caravan or the car.



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09/8/2009 at 5:37pm
 Location: Kennington OXFORD
 Outfit: 2005 Eccles Sterling Topaz 2 berth
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Quote: Originally posted by freeatlast on 09/8/2009

The spacers have been on the caravan for some 6000 miles of touring, with no problems whatsoever, and unlike drop plates, this is perfectly legal and would not invalidate the insurance of either the caravan or the car.


        So - spacers then! Note to self for when I collect our 'van - let engineering commence.......

Pete

 

 



09/8/2009 at 7:26pm
 Location: Ireland
 Outfit: Relay conversion
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Is your trailer new or is it old.And dose it have an Indespension axal.

If it is an old trailer the suspension inside the axal could become soft this would cause the trailer to be lower to the ground than normal and would have to life up the frount of the trailer higher to hook it on.

A good point for anyone with a trailer tent and even a caravan if you can, for the winter storage time is to jack up the axel a bit not all the way and put some timber under the axal beside the wheels. This will take the pressure of the suspension and even the tyres and they all will last longer.

Happy Camping

Andrew



09/8/2009 at 7:29pm
 Location: None Entered
 Outfit: Conway Camargue
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Hi, thanks for all your help! I cannot find a spacer to go between the hitch and the A frame, I have modified a wooden piece about 1.5" in height, I am under the impression that it is simply a spacer and the stress wouldnt lie on the wood but the Bolts themselves? am I right?

Thanks again great community you have here!

Matt



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09/8/2009 at 7:54pm
 Location: Ireland
 Outfit: Relay conversion
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Yes you are right, the stress is in the wood. The only problem that I see is if you were towing and the wood would beake of or splinter then the hitch would have a 1.5 inch gap of movent and if you did not notice immedaly all the movement would wear the bolts and also make the bolt holes bigger, then when you replace the bolts the hole would be to big and your hitch would always then be loose. So if you replace the wood with some metal washers and you should be ok, but the best thing to do is to get someone to make you spacers!

Happy Camping

Andrew



10/8/2009 at 12:02am
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hi i have a similer problem ive got an older dandy and have just come back from wales ,towing with a citroen xantia the hydraulic suspension keeps the car at a set level all the time no matter what weight is on the car so my dandy also sits high (not level) .towed fine but should proberly need to be more level ,my tow bar is the anker type.


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15/8/2009 at 2:46pm
 Location: Scottish Borders
 Outfit: Dandy Destiny & Kia Soul
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Had the same prob with my Dandy when we bought our new car a Kia Soul

Alco detatchable towbar (the only one to fit Kia Soul)  towball 50cm from the ground

Dandy Hitch 34cm from ground=Dandy almost dragging rear end on the ground

Tearing Hair Out!!!!!! 

Took Dandy to local welders who makes &  specialises in trailers and he raised the unit 600mm. I presume over the chassis, a perfect result, the dandy sits level when towing and now I don't even know it's on the back

Cost £200 and worth every penny



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16/8/2009 at 4:07pm
 Location:  Surrey
 Outfit: 2004 Crusader Peugeot 406 HDi136
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Have a simular problem had 405 my Sterling had avery slight nose down stance & towed fine, changed to a 406 & towbar height is 3" higher & towed awfully so as it is a 2001 then I have the same pronlem with dropper plate.

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