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03/9/2010 at 7:46pm
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Hi all
Im hoping someone can help me, i lent my tt to a friend for the summer and she returned it today, whilst checking it over i have found she has stored it away wet so i know have damp mattressess but worse than that mouldy bed boards! Can anyone tell me how i can get these clean and safe to sleep on again or where i will get replacement boards.
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03/9/2010 at 9:29pm
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If they are just ply,replace with marine ply from a builders merchant. Mould is hard to kill properly and forms spores which can lie dormant for years. B&q etc will cut to size. Bleach kills mould  but will you know if you got it all?Some people recommend Milton but that is just a weak solution of bleach and salt, so 30p a bottle stuff is ideal. Suggest you remove the canvas if you go down the bleach route.  A coat of varnish will be helpful on new or cleaned boards.

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I have had to go the bleach and varnish route, on our Pathfinder, After a wet winter too close to a hedge. Luckily i had good weather as it took most of the day. all cured and shipshape now though.    Good Luck to you


04/9/2010 at 8:51am
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Thanks very much for your replys, Think i will try the bleach and varnish route first and if unsuccessful will the replace
Thanks again
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04/9/2010 at 1:17pm
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04/9/2010 at 2:46pm
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I would remove the canvas, use a mould killer to kill any spores and then when fully dry sand the plywood surface carefully with an electric sander to get a good smooth finish. I can't really see that its necessary to completely replace the wood.

Finally I guess you could varnish to prevent a recurrence if you want.


04/9/2010 at 9:04pm
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Time is the thing,replacing is quick and no chance of bleaching the canvas! And the boards may have warped.

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you can go down the route of replacing the boards but then you need to get out the old rivets and put in new ones and also to make 100 sure it wont happen again a coat of varnish will help..........but if your going to do that you would probably be better off with the bleach routine. completly cover it with bleach, leave for 10 mins, wipe off what you can, let it dry then seal it with varnish.


05/9/2010 at 1:35pm
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Excuse me, but didn't I read somewhere that you should not varnish the bedboards so as to allow them to breath ?


05/9/2010 at 2:02pm
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Possibly,but you shouldn't believe everything you read.Engineered wood doesn't breathe much ,hence it doesn't warp unless it's damp for a long time. Some modern bed boards are made of a kind of fibreboard,I wouldn't varnish those.

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20/3/2011 at 3:30pm
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Hello,

I know this is an older thread now but has anybody gone down the bleach route as we have just been to check on our pennine pathfinder to find the same problem on the bedboards?

If this did not work out very well, does anybody know of a repair center in the east midlands that would be able to replace the bedboards for us as we have nowhere to do this ourselves any more and the pathfinder is in storage where there isn't the facility to have it opened out for long enough to do it ourselves.

Thanks in advance,  Tony & polly



20/3/2011 at 10:11pm
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I would not varnish it - if the wood is not completely dry you will be sealing damp in it, and mould spores if you have'nt killed them all. If it is dry then you will stop the wood breathing, was it varished when new? no, there is a reason for that, so why varnish now?


20/3/2011 at 10:51pm
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When we opened up our FC last year we had black mouldy bed boards and some on the bed pods.  I stripped the beds and put the pods in the washing machine (after spraying them with Dettol Mould & Mildew spray.  I then scrubbed the bed boards with a Milton solution then left the FC up to dry.  This weekend we put the FC up for the first time since we packed away last September (always a scary moment!) and am pleased to say the mould has not returned and the FC made it through the winter!

I too have read that the boards need to breathe so they shouldn't be varnished?



21/3/2011 at 5:26pm
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I don't believe they need to breath. If that were the case boats wouldn't use varnish on marine ply. The new Pennine FCs come with phenolic coated boards. I think the truth is the manufacturers like the cheap option and spray operations for varnish is relatively costly.

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sorry dave but by their very nature boats are in constant contact with water and so have to be sealed, otherwise the ply would swell and over time the glue between the sheets of wood that make up the ply would dissolve, campers are a totally different beast.



22/3/2011 at 10:51am
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Sorry don't agree, boat interior panels are ply, are not in constant contact with water, are in a humid environment and are sealed with varnish, not left to so-called 'breathe'. Marine ply glue does not dissolve, it is water and boil proof, the timbers used in it are anti fungal. Check out Lloyds approved boat materials.

I think the problem with Conway et al is that they don't use marine ply. If they did people would not have the panel rot / de-lamination problems in the FCs and soft delaminating floors in the TTs.

Even worse was my latest TT, Cabanon moved to moisture 'resistant' mdf for bedboards. They were changed on purchase to marine ply, lighter and vastly improved reliability.

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