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05/10/2010 at 7:48pm
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does anyone know if you can get a spray to improve the flame retardant qualities of the canvas? ( I have been on the fire training at work today and it got me thinking about improving tent safety!)


05/10/2010 at 7:54pm
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i belive that anything used for this would stop the canvas from being waterproof.

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tony
that was a lovely summer


05/10/2010 at 9:10pm
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Canvas isn't that easy to light, is it?

Unlike nylon.

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Paul


05/10/2010 at 9:22pm
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Had a quick crawl around the web,and it seems that canvas burns very well indeed! However,most of these sites were selling fire retardant sprays,so more research is needed I think.Thanks for worrying us all!

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09/10/2010 at 11:13am
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so no good news there then! I guess on the plus side you don't hear of many tent fires..................do you..............

only joking! I have never heard of any.

But I think I will look at having a strong blade eg stanley type knife that I keep in the sleeping section to cut throughh the canvas as a means of escape if there was a fire at night. Seems OTT doesn't it, but then better safe than sorry and it is quick & cheap to do.



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09/10/2010 at 12:10pm
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In the UK there is only a limited requirement - the weather provides very effective flame retardency.

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Dave


09/10/2010 at 12:22pm
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There was a link on this forum to a film of a trailer tent burning - it was very disturbing. Hopefully the person who gave the link can put it back up for us,

Homebird



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Homebird


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Usually there is a known reason for a fire starting, often related to cooking or smoking so as long as you are not doing either  whilst in bed you are unlikely to have to cut your way out.  I suppose there are limited risks from things like a stay ember from someone's camp fire or a faulty electric devise used in your camper at night (heaters etc) but risks really are very low.   Not sure you would have enough time to cut yourself out in a fire anyway.  

 



09/10/2010 at 7:30pm
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I take the point about cooking or smoking, but I was thinking of the event of a neighboring camper smoking or cooking whilst I was in bed!

just a precaution to have the knife. it would be dreadful to think of having time but being unable to get out.

I do sound morbid don't I but thats what comes of attending fire training that is run by ex firemen! I never put my dishwasher on now and go to bed ( in the house I am now!) nor tumble dryer if I had one. Apparently many fires have started like this including one at Terry Wogan's home, but smoke detectors alerted them. Thank goodness for smoke detectors.



09/10/2010 at 9:56pm
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Quote: Originally posted by homebird2003 on 09/10/2010

There was a link on this forum to a film of a trailer tent burning - it was very disturbing. Hopefully the person who gave the link can put it back up for us,

Homebird



Was it the one on page 2 of this thread?

Description of a more recent incident here.


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09/10/2010 at 11:17pm
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A trailer tent caught fire at a festival we were at a couple of years ago; very scary!  I think a stanley knife is good idea, you should have an escape plan at home so I suppose it makes at least as much sense in a tent.

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All the best,
Alison


09/10/2010 at 11:27pm
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When we were camping in May we used a heater that takes the cartridge type gas. Our daughter and her hubby borrowed it to warm the tent and fell asleep- it was only the dog barking that woke them as the inner tent was ready to ignite that stopped a fire...good old labbiie. Both the kids were in the tent asleep. We had told them nt t get in bed till they had turned it off. We wouldn't let them have the heater after that but what a near miss-We are always s careful but it just shows be on yur gaurd always


11/10/2010 at 8:45pm
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I have always carried a  sharp knife in my bed kit, for this very reason.  I also keep the extinguisher very close because the likelyhood of fire would divide me from my kids in the other pod.   I keep all emergency stuff in a plastic carrier, such as car keys wallet and the knife,  If a bail out is needed, the emergency stuff is with me.  A good routine at night can also prevent theft of your car and valuables, remember Burglaries are common place these days, I am very surprised that burglary crimes have not expanded onto campsites, especially with the amount of kit left around daily.  

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11/10/2010 at 9:01pm
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Hi.devil99qa

Did your Crusader have a fire extinguisher with it when you bought it.We have just got a new Countryman on Saturday and packed it away for winter on Sunday.I dont recall seeing one in the unit.Cheers.Alex



13/10/2010 at 9:34am
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a near miss  indeed lewops and as you say good old wuff!  Thanks for your comments Paul, good to know I am not the only one who thinks like this!

Alex re the fire extinguisher, I think it is better to buy a new one anyway cos the original may be too old and inefficient. Personally I am not sure that an extinguisher would be much use given the very short time available............I think a fire blanket is better, I place it on top of the wardrobe when we are pitching, with the tapes hanging down so that it would be ready to just grab and throw on flames if an incident occurred at the kitchen area and had not reached the canvas, but really I doubt that anything would help if the canvas caught light so the best plan is as Alison says to have an escape plan already thought through and just get out and away, alerting others nearby by shouting.

it is indeed surprising that we do not have more thefts on campsites, but then there have been chhild abductions over the years, so thats bad enough. I always warn my daughter to make sure the little ones are not left alone nor sleep alone.

I do sound like a nervous wreck don't I! I just think we must think things through carefully in the light of the worst possible scenario and then we can relax knowing we have a plan.



15/10/2010 at 3:52pm
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Quote: Originally posted by homebird2003 on 09/10/2010

There was a link on this forum to a film of a trailer tent burning - it was very disturbing. Hopefully the person who gave the link can put it back up for us,

Homebird


I think this the link;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeQS8DFfU2Q

Quite dramatic and obviously upsetting for the family concerned when they returned.




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