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12/4/2012 at 12:50pm
 Location: Norfolk
 Outfit: Berghaus Air 4 tent
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Hi all

We bought a 2nd hand Pennine Fiesta 2001 model and following advice on this forum moved the battery from the gas locker, where someone previously had moved it, back to the cupboard under the sink. 

Thank heavens we did as our gas bottle leaked, first time the campsite owner had ever seen such a thing, so it could have been a potential disaster.  The seal on the bottle went which is vey unusal but the bottle was bought with the camper so could have been very old. Luckily the campsite sold gas bottles so removed the cannister to a safe place to discharge.

Thanks to those that advised to move the battery, we would have not known any different having never had a camper with a battery.

 

Neil

 



12/4/2012 at 1:14pm
 Location: flint north wales
 Outfit: swift challenger 480se 2002
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nice to know that ,we are all here to help each other i find this a very helpful site indeed


12/4/2012 at 1:25pm
 Location: Northern Ireland
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In the Pullman ... the battery is housed at the opposite end to the gas bottle locker ...
Though I probably wouldn't have 'clocked' the hazard had I purchased a unit set up with them together.
Obvious when you think about it!
Thanks for the info ... never to be forgotten!


14/4/2012 at 2:32pm
 Location: cheshire
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does this apply to every camper and the leisure battery we have just recently purchased a trigano 415 and the battery is also situated with gas bottle what should i do all help appreciated


14/4/2012 at 3:11pm
 Location: None Entered
 Outfit: trigano chantilly
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its not the combination of battery and gas but gas and spark ,i'v never seen a battery spark when you switch on a light but i have seen a small spark in the switch.
so in theory its not the battery being the problem except when undoing or doing up the wires to it and hopefully the compartment is vented as LPG is heavier than air any leakage should go out of the locker to the outside.
if you smell gas isolate the source before fiddling with the battery.
in our old motorhome the gas locker was backed by the gas fire itself ,we survived


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14/4/2012 at 6:22pm
 Location: Argyll Scotland
 Outfit: 1997 Bailey Ranger 470 4
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Most older caravans had the gas and the battery in the same locker, but probably an accident (or two) with such a set up has forced manufacturers to change the layout and seperate the two systems.

However there will always be the fellow who decides to combine them, for whatever reason, and this is why it is imporatant to have an up to date caravan manual to peruse so that you know what should go where. This is especially important if you are buying a second hand van/fc/whatever.



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14/4/2012 at 7:23pm
 Location:  Surrey
 Outfit: 2004 Crusader Peugeot 406 HDi136
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From Lobey

Most older caravans had the gas and the battery in the same locker, but probably an accident (or two) with such a set up has forced manufacturers to change the layout and seperate the two systems.

Yes my old 1982 Bailey had 2 gas bottle & battery holder moulded into the floor in the front locker.

Really if all batteries are connected with correct connectors like this then there is no chance of a spark, if the correct order is observed ie connect battery first then turn on gas, a bigger risk is that if a battery is overcharged or old and is giving of sulphuric acid gas this is heavier than air and highly explosive. Just make sure there is plenty of ventilation

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15/4/2012 at 10:48am
 Location: Cradley Heath West Midlands.
 Outfit: Trailer Tent Dealer
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Gas is also heavier than air so as long as there are drop holes in the locker any leak should escape preventing any build up.
I have never heard of a accident although gas regulations nower days certainly do not allow this. If the unit was originally made with them together its fine but if some one has moved them together then a gas engineer could condemn it.
I'd like to say if the unit is serviced then a competent engineer should pick up on this.

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15/4/2012 at 11:33am
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my caravan runs 2 gas bottles, 1 either side of the battery, i wouldnt move it, theres no need to, as the gas wont ignite unless theres a spark and gas leak, which are rare together.


15/4/2012 at 2:15pm
 Location: Devon
 Outfit: Pennine Fiesta
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I have an isolator switch to my battery in my gas locker, I'm not concerend about it because when I use the switch (on set up and put down when arriving at/leaving a site) the gas is switched off and the locker will have been open for a while.

It is also interesting to note that on my Pennine Fiesta the two white side lights on the front of the unit are wired in through the front bulkhead of the gas locker, with no particular insulation - clearly, Pennine don't perceive a risk with this set up.

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