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20/6/2012 at 8:17pm
 Location: lancashire
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Hi ,I use a 907 gas bottle with gas light attachment (gas mantle).This provides light and plenty of much needed heat in the trailer tent.How dangerous are the fumes that are given off?Cheers


20/6/2012 at 8:24pm
 Location: devon
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any item that burns gas can produce carbon monoxide,now if it is burning correctly then it will be a small amount.so with good ventilation high and low you should be ok.

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that was a lovely summer


20/6/2012 at 8:40pm
 Location: West Midlands
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However, if there isn't adequate ventilation, or it's not burning correctly, it could be lethal.


20/6/2012 at 9:00pm
 Location: County Durham
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We never kept any gas or appliances in our tent but now that we have an FC we'll be getting a carbon monoxide detector.

As Hacksaw Bob said it is lethal and I recall a teenager being killed in May whilst camping in Shropshire.

Graeme


21/6/2012 at 10:27am
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Its scary when I think of the things I've done in the past camping,

I had no idea until these poor people have died how dangerous gas and bbq's could be. I've often lit the cooker to keep warm in a tent.



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21/6/2012 at 10:33am
 Location: Hertfordshire
 Outfit: Lots of tents and a 72 VW Camper
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Hi, see this for some pointers:

50 Carbon Monoxide, BBQ and Fire Safety Advice
Safety advice for caravanners and campers relating to barbecues, and CO carbon monoxide poisoning, cooking in tents etc. Please read this and share. Never put a BBQ in a tent to keep warm, it will kill you and your loved ones.

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21/6/2012 at 11:23am
 Location: swindon
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As an add on to this what do we think about gas powered fridges in tents? I've been thinking of getting one so we're not so reliant on ehu. I remember mum and dad having a caravan in the late 70's with gas lights that we, as others, used all the time and don't recall hearing any stories such as those we've heard of recently.

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21/6/2012 at 1:06pm
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You are right, one of the problems is ventilation. Caravans have built in vents. But camping in tents has changed.  In ye olden days before polyester and sewn in ground sheets, airflow was not a problem.  Now sealing themselves in, what is effectively a plastic bag, not good. 

The manufacturers produce what the public will buy.  So the cheaper Polyester and sewn in groundsheets draught free models are the one that sell.  Draught free is also no air flow. So equipment that was not  a problem in the past combined with the new tents not a good combination.  EHU leads left coiled have also started fatal  fires.  So where will that leave us.  Common sense is the way to keep you and yours safe.  My way to resolve it,  Utility tent for gas or EHU  equipment.



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21/6/2012 at 6:16pm
 Location: None Entered
 Outfit: Daihatsu Gran Cargo Campervan
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I've regularly used gas appliances, lights, cookers and fridges inside tents, and will continue to do so.

I will also continue to make sure there's plenty of high and low level ventilation though!

Making sure the appliance is well maintained and burning correctly is also important - a blue flame is fine, a yellow one is dangerous.

Glen



21/6/2012 at 7:05pm
 Location: West Midlands
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Quote: Originally posted by Daves mate on 21/6/2012
As an add on to this what do we think about gas powered fridges in tents? I've been thinking of getting one so we're not so reliant on ehu. I remember mum and dad having a caravan in the late 70's with gas lights that we, as others, used all the time and don't recall hearing any stories such as those we've heard of recently.


Same kind of risk, really, unless you can keep the fridge outside - as Oldham says, caravans have built-in ventilation, which would have reduced any risk from the fitted gas lamps, as well as any onboard gas fridge having its own sealed vent to outside.





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21/6/2012 at 10:25pm
 Location: swindon
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Quote: Originally posted by oldham on 21/6/2012

You are right, one of the problems is ventilation. Caravans have built in vents. But camping in tents has changed.  In ye olden days before polyester and sewn in ground sheets, airflow was not a problem.  Now sealing themselves in, what is effectively a plastic bag, not good. 

The manufacturers produce what the public will buy.  So the cheaper Polyester and sewn in groundsheets draught free models are the one that sell.  Draught free is also no air flow. So equipment that was not  a problem in the past combined with the new tents not a good combination.  EHU leads left coiled have also started fatal  fires.  So where will that leave us.  Common sense is the way to keep you and yours safe.  My way to resolve it,  Utility tent for gas or EHU  equipment.


So do we think that a canvas trailer tent awning with no sig would provide enough ventilation then?

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