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Subject Topic: Trailer MOT????? Post Reply Post New Topic
04/9/2012 at 5:45pm
 Location: Vale of Llangollen Wrexham
 Outfit: Abbey. Domino 2 plus Vintage Mo-tent
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I've just taken my renovated 50/60's unique camping trailer into trailor specialist to fit new suspension units.  I was informed that it would need to conform to new forthcoming MOT regulations and I could not use original Mini wheels and tyres, that I would need to fit a fog lamp to rear and various other mods to comply.  As it isn't yet in force i vetoed the new wheels and tyres and opted only for suspension and new jockeywheel.

I then surfed the internet for inforamtion on this subject but could find little of use.  For instance, will there be excemptions for antique/vintage trailers/caravan/TT etc or will this be the death knell of older interesting trailers?   Anyone with any knowledge of this? 

Frank



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04/9/2012 at 6:41pm
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Unless anyone knows different there are no plans for a trailer MOT. There are construction and use regulations but as far as I'm aware these are not applied retrospectively, i.e. if it was legal when the trailer was built it's legal now.

Glen



04/9/2012 at 7:37pm
 Location: Vale of Llangollen Wrexham
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T hanks Glen-d, That what I thought and why I argued the toss with company and posted the topic.  But ---- if anyone knows different ........

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04/9/2012 at 8:11pm
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I certainly have not heard anything about this. Don't know what the issue is with mini wheels. I have just put 2 new tyres on mine.


05/9/2012 at 8:17am
 Location: Southampton
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Not sure about any MOT thing, but as far as I know, the bit about the Mini wheels is probably to do with the brakes. If a trailer is fitted with brakes, they must work, even if it is below the 750kg limit for requiring brakes.

If yours is unbraked, but fitted with Mini wheels, it's technically illegal I believe, but as glen_p points out, the rules may not be applied retrospectively.



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05/9/2012 at 8:27am
 Location: Vale of Llangollen Wrexham
 Outfit: Abbey. Domino 2 plus Vintage Mo-tent
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It's unbraked and circa 1960 and even has the original mini hubcaps.  I am striving to keep it as near as original as possible,  All wheels have brand new mini tyres (not cheap) fitted and all is now fit for purpose.  The only reason that I put into the specialists was that the original suspension was shot and fitting new units required equipment, ramp and skill i do not have.  Then they threw me that MOT curved ball!  17  Even want to change the perfectly servicable original jockey wheel..   That and original tow hitch are next stage of restoration. 

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05/9/2012 at 8:40am
 Location: Manchester
 Outfit: Pennine Countryman
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I think I'd be inclined of email the DVLA, just to be absolutely clear on the position. You can't know too much in situations like these!

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05/9/2012 at 10:25am
 Location: Southampton
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Or have a delve through this:

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/contents/made

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/regulation/4/made

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/regulation/15/made

These seem to suggest that, as your trailer was manufactured significantly before 1983, the braking regs don't apply, but there's far to much legalese there for me to be sure...



05/9/2012 at 5:47pm
 Location: Vale of Llangollen Wrexham
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Thanks SiHa.  Have read and reread it and am no wiser!  17  However I will pursue this although I'm not getting any further.  This has serious implications to all owners of vintage trailer (I have two) including Rapido, Dandy and Creighton Binns to name but a few.

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05/9/2012 at 6:33pm
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Came across this on the 'net:

http://www.betterregulation.gov.uk/ideas/viewidea.cfm?proposalid=4486975cfab5492791cbd00a9139fa28

Pretty definitive answer that there won't be an MOT!

Glen



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06/9/2012 at 8:07am
 Location: Southampton
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Nice.


06/9/2012 at 9:40am
 Location: Vale of Llangollen Wrexham
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So someone waqs trying to get more money out of me.  The job still hasn't been done even though they have had the unit sinse Monday afternoon.  It's now Thursday morning!  It's only 12 bolts and maybe a bit if adjustments.   I should have done the job myself but thought it may be best with the professionals.  17   Not happy about the increased angst and the bullsh*t.

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06/9/2012 at 6:02pm
 Location: Vale of Llangollen Wrexham
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update,  Went to see them this morning and turns out that, while they had pair of mini hubs in stock for mini wheels, one  of them was minus the bearings.  Asked why no feedback to customer and was eventually molified but still have no trailer.  Maybe tomorrow?

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