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Personswaggy
29/4/2014 at 10:43am
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I had 3 bikes on the rear rack of my Pathfinder and it really changed the towing characteristics dramatically. I even filled the toilet with water and moved everything as far forward as I could to increase noseweight but could only manage 60Kg. When towing a 1000Kg Pathfinder with such a light noseweight, anything over 50mph was scary whereas normally its as steady as a rock with around 80Kg. Next trip I plan on putting at least one bike on the drawbar or on the car roof to try and balance it up a bit. Trial and error I'm afraid.

Before I get reminded about noseweight limits etc, I've got a 4x4, 2800Kg towing limit and 120Kg towbar rating.

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PersonLightFantastic
29/4/2014 at 12:48pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Russ Boy on 28/4/2014
Not too sure about the older models but I think on the newer ones the difference is that the Pathfinder has external gas and shower points

Same with the Crusader, certainly in relation to the shower. Think it was 2002 onwards for the shower and pretty sure a gas point too on later models.

Brochures on Conway Owners Club is a good place to check all the difference between years, only for Conway models of course.


PersonGeeBee R3
29/4/2014 at 3:38pm
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Ok, could you explain for the hard of understanding, please? What would an external gas and shower point be used for/with, exacrly? Remember, my camping experience so far has been in a tent!

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Personchicaguapa
29/4/2014 at 5:53pm
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External gas point is if you want to run your gas BBQ off it. I think the external shower point is just what it says, so you can hose down outside. Not sure what you'd connect to it though.

Re Conway/ Pennine, my view was that Pennine still exists so people feel happier spending a bit more on it than Conway. I wanted the slide out beds so specifically wanted a Conway. I also preferred the hob on the left and the sink on the right.


PersonGeeBee R3
29/4/2014 at 10:23pm
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That makes sense! However, a gas bbq is a grill and not a real bbq, so I won't be considering that a desirable option. As for showering outside- I'd probably get booted off the campsite!

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PersonAlan Chilestone
29/4/2014 at 10:43pm
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I think the initial publicity showed washing a dog with the exernal shower!! Unless they are going for the Naturist market

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Personferrodo
30/4/2014 at 6:36am
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External shower point ??? Isn't that callled rain.

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PersonGeeBee R3
30/4/2014 at 6:57am
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Would I be correct in thinking that if it has an external shower point then it must have a water heater?


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Personswaggy
30/4/2014 at 8:28am
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I have a 1999 Pathfinder. It has an external gas point but no external shower point. It has a dual fuel water heater - gas or electric.

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Logged into the grey matter for future reference- thank you

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Quote: Originally posted by swaggy on 29/4/2014
I had 3 bikes on the rear rack of my Pathfinder and it really changed the towing characteristics dramatically. I even filled the toilet with water and moved everything as far forward as I could to increase noseweight but could only manage 60Kg. When towing a 1000Kg Pathfinder with such a light noseweight, anything over 50mph was scary whereas normally its as steady as a rock with around 80Kg. Next trip I plan on putting at least one bike on the drawbar or on the car roof to try and balance it up a bit. Trial and error I'm afraid.

Before I get reminded about noseweight limits etc, I've got a 4x4, 2800Kg towing limit and 120Kg towbar rating.

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Hi swaggy
Have you looked at MaxxRaxx?
It would solve the problem for you.


Personswaggy
30/4/2014 at 4:02pm
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Yes. My problem is that my 4x4 has quite a long towbar ball mounting and a large rear mounted spare wheel. So a MaxxRaxx needs to be bent around that which brings the arms pretty close to the camper. As I said my first attempt will be to try one bike on the drawbar and one on the rear rack which should cancel each other out weightwise and balance things up. If not, then its back to the drawing board.

Oh, also my youngest grandchild has just learned to ride her bike this week, looks like by summer it will be 4 bikes.


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PersonLightFantastic
01/5/2014 at 11:20pm
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Quote: Originally posted by GeeBee R3 on 29/4/2014
However, a gas bbq is a grill and not a real bbq,

Oh Gawd, please don't start that debate!!!

Quote: Originally posted by chicaguapa on 29/4/2014
I think the external shower point is just what it says, so you can hose down outside. Not sure what you'd connect to it though.

There's a shower head with hose all fitted, so basically a case of opening the locker type door, taking the head out and turning on the tap(s), well it is on the Crusader anyway.

Quote: Originally posted by GeeBee R3 on 30/4/2014
Would I be correct in thinking that if it has an external shower point then it must have a water heater?

As a Crusader - 2000 onwards - has hot water (gas or electric) as standard the shower also has hot water.



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