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21/8/2014 at 10:26am
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My wife and three boys (2,4 & 7) have found the love for camping over the past few years and are currently using a Montana 6 tent. I love the setup when it is pitched, but there are some downsides...

- Time (and space needed) to pack car
- Time to pitch and get everything in the tent (actual pitching is ok its everything going in takes the time and we only SIMs for kids, airbed for us, carpet and small kitchen unit)
- Never properly comfy in the bed
- Pack down time
- Packing the car again

So we are looking at alternatives and considering something like a Camplet trailer tent. Has anybody switched from standard tent to a trailer tent and can you offer any advice/opinions. I like the idea of the built-in kitchen and better beds, and quicker pitch (or at least setup) time. I have some concerns about not having a built-in ground sheet though?



21/8/2014 at 10:39am
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We went from a tent to a FC. To be honest they all take about the same time to pitch and pack away.

Some trailer tents have a ZIG I believe.

Nothing is perfect and we spend all our time looking at Motorhomes!


21/8/2014 at 10:51am
 Location: Lancashire
 Outfit: Jamet Dakota
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I would suggest if you can wait that you go to the camping show at the nec in February. We went this year so we could have a good look at all the trailer tents. We purchased at the show from Black Country Camping, a Jamet Dakota, has 2 king size slatted base beds plus underbeds, very thick zip in groundsheet, canopy and canopy sides so we have a great undercover outside eating area. Having moved up from an Outwell Vermont, I love the comfort and the diff canvas makes. We've had our first holiday in it now and it was great, can't wait to take it to france next year now - can certainly imagine 2 weeks camping now I don't have to sleep in the floor! If you can't wait till February BCC do have a few on show.


21/8/2014 at 11:45am
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Thanks for the advice and replies...we also spend a lot of our time looking at camper and motorhomes, but just don't have the funds for what we would want!

I will take a look the Dakota. BCC is not too far from me so may take a look.

I was hoping a TT may be a little quicker than a standard tent, and would also mean the car feels a bit less cramped on route?


21/8/2014 at 3:27pm
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We moved from a tent to a TT some years ago and, to be honest, once you've set up the awning and pegged it out, the pitching time is about the same (perhaps a little quicker). Even with a Camplet, there is plenty of pegging to do.

Setting up equipment will take about the same time, assuming you take the same stuff as you did in a tent. We found the most savings in weeding out the stuff that we don't really need and leaving it at home!

For us, the major benefit is having a nice of-the-ground bed on a slatted base. We are both the "wrong side" of 65 years old and find it so much more convenient.


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21/8/2014 at 6:28pm
 Location: Gloucestershire
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We went from a tent to a TT last year and its the best thing we ever did.

We do have a quick erect tt, a trigano olympe for our family of four.  The awning is already preattached to the frame so once the top pole is in it opens out and over like a pram hood so you can be under cover within 15 to 20 mins.  It also has a zip in groundsheet (zig) so it helps keep the bugs out and also keeps the tent warmer at night.  We did the early may bank holiday and although frosty at night we were lovely and warm.

The rest of the set up time is about the same as our old tent, however the biggest saving for us is in terms of space in the car.  we can get all our chairs, tables, wardrobes etc in the trailer, the loo and fridge plus a few incidentals in the front box and then the car only has our clothes so much more comfy for us and the kids to travel further distances.  No more fitting bedding, luggage, loo rolls round the kids!!

For longer trips we have a foldable roof box that we put on the tt's luggage rack for our sun loungers etc.

We got ours from BCC and Chris there is very good and very knowledgable.  They also have a good range of tts and fcs on show so you get a good feel for what would suit you best.

Hope that helps :)

Kerry



21/8/2014 at 9:12pm
 Location:  Leeds
 Outfit: Hymer exsis t580
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Hi,

I agree with Kerry, we also have the Olympe with the middle bed conversion, so we now have 3 double beds plus 2 under bed pods.

Both outside beds are probably the same as the Dakota as Jamet and Raclet are Trigano owned, the middle eating area is a double proper pd with a blow doulbe matress in, which according to our 14 yearold is very comfy, our 12 yearold prefers his undetbed pod.

The Olympe is very easy to put up with 2 and can be done in well under an hour.

Thanks to Kerry for reccomending the sun canopy as this makes it a huge unit and does not take long to put up, we spent every mealtime outside when in Doset 4 weeks ago fo 15 days, a great addition.

I have noticed an Olympe on eBay for sale, Chris at BCC is a very friendly and helpful/knowledgeable person.

If you are thinking of keeping a TT for many years then I would reccomend the Olympe for your family, even though there is only 4 of us plus 2 dogs we do have the occasional friend stay with us .

We had the Chantilly gl for 7 years and now the Olympe for 18 months.

Best regards,

Tony.


22/8/2014 at 8:17am
 Location: Warrington
 Outfit: Camplet Classic
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We went from a tent to Camplet for this season. Got the Camplet Classic in Nov 13 from Camperlands. Biggest thing for us is the comfort of sleeping at night. I cant describe how good the camplet bed is for us. We've added a mattress foam topper which is 3" deep, and its so good to sleep on. Cooking etc is also far easier for us to do.

If your expecting to save hours on the set-up then you won't. It takes us 60-90 mins to get fully sorted and drink in hand. Same for putting things away, it takes 90 mins or so.

I also don't worry about wind now, as the unit feels bomb proof, but time will tell on that score :)

Being able to store the chairs/table and kitchen stuff in the unit is also a big plus. I still have a roof box as we have two dogs to cage in the car for the journey.

We love ours, and glad we made the move :)

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22/8/2014 at 9:28am
 Location: Manchester
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We started with a Camplet, moved on to a Jametic and now have a Combi Camp.

I don't think a Camplet would be big enough for you, you would need a side annex which impinges on the useable space in the tent and adds to the pitching time. A Trigano Odyssee or Janet Jametic would be better, it goes up in the same way but is bigger (and heavier), and has one underbed tent. You can get a side annex as well if the boys all wanted their own space, but as I said, they do bring their own issues. Or you could go up to the Olympe, which is bigger again and as has been mentioned can have a third double bed in the centre, plus two underbed tents.

They are all pram hood type tents. They go up quickly and easily, the Camplet can be pitched by one, the others definitely take two for at least some of the time. They still need to be pegged and set up.

The Camplet is the smallest and lightest, and has a swing out kitchen. On the other two the kitchen has to be set up and moved, and they weigh a ton. For us it became a problem and is one of the reasons we switched, but you can put castors on the legs, and I believe Trigano do a lightweight version now as well, and lots of people do manage just fine with them, they are useful.

The Triganos and Jamet have a ZIG, which does make it cosy.

For storage the Odyssee/Jametic is hard to beat. The two beds are side by side and the one on the trailer lifts up with the storage in the trailer. This means that you don't have to get everything out, so if you did just want to sleep you could leave most of your gear packed.

We got DD a nice thick SIM for the underbed tent, leaving it in when we folded the unit up, and she loved her little cave.

The Combi Camp gives us more options. The kids are 16 and 18 now, so we wanted something which worked as well for us as a couple as it does for the whole family, so we have a king sized bed in the trailer plus rear and side annexes for the kids which can be left behind if they aren't there.   Of the three we've had the Combi Camp is my favourite, it can be pitched solo, the kitchen doesn't have to be moved, and fully pitched its huge. We get it fully set up more quickly than the others we've had, but that's partly because everyone has their own bits, which doesn't really apply with smaller children.

Raclet have a couple of quick erect tts as well, you can access their brochure via the BCC website. At the end of the day creating a home from home for a family is always going to take a while, but a quick erect trailer tent is easier to pitch than a family tent, frees up space in the car, and is more comfortable. We've certainly never regretted swapping.

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Alison


22/8/2014 at 10:46am
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We went from a tent to a trailer tent and now are back in a tent!! We found the trailer tent was lovely and comfy and ,because we had luggage bars and a roof box fitted, was permanently packed and ready to go so we could throw in clothes and go off on a whim.(We even left it in France for a few years to save on ferry costs!) However our big bug bear was drying it out before packing it away! We could air the trailer part out on our drive way but the awning was impossible. We got damp despite our best efforts and replaced the awning but in the end we got rid of it and settled for a Monty 6 which is much easier to throw over the washing line or drape over the furntiure in the sun room!!


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22/8/2014 at 2:12pm
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A good point, with the pram hood type TT you do have to have space to put it up to get it dry because its all in one. We have a big garden and even when we used the tent the easiest thing to do was pitch it, but the Combi Camp can be dried in a smaller space if necessary.

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26/8/2014 at 12:57pm
 Location: Salford
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We went from a Monty 6 to Pennine Sterling, not a lot of difference in set up time but some how feels more snug & secure in out British summers. We kept our old Hartford M just for the odd trip but to be honest it hasn't been out since we got the FC. If you have room to store the trailer then you have room to dry an awning. We open our trailer to get it dry on the drive then fold it down & spread the awning over the trailer & turn it a couple of times. We also got fed up of dragging everything in & out of the tent & it started to take a lot of the fun away, now its just 2 extra chairs for the awning which fit & live in the trailer, extra cupboard to put tins in & brewing gear on top & as many cans of lager as you can squeeze in. ;)


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26/8/2014 at 3:07pm
 Location: Midlands
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We went from a huge 10 man tent to our cheap as chips pennine pullman. We have 4 kids and it works for us. Camper is left up at home to dry out, clean and restock. So easy to tow and can load it up and leave it ready to go.


26/8/2014 at 4:05pm
 Location: West Wales
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I'd agree with all of the above points, we switched this year from a tent to a Trigano Galleon, larger awning but it's not attached ready so the setup time is longer, we also went for the side annexe and sun canopy, which goes up in no time and gives you an extra bedroom plus a good sized outdoor canopy for the changeable british weather.

All with ZIGs and weighs in at under 500kgs for towing.



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