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Personmudcow007
23/3/2015 at 10:10am
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So seeing as the weekend was luuurvly, i finally started on the revamp of Clive (Clive the Camper - sad i know)

all cushions are with the re upholsterers

cupboard doors/ draws all removed waiting to be primed

checked in the storage box where the electrics are connected an was greeted with this...



weirdly the wires are brand new/ clean on the brown an white cables.

looks to me that they previous owners have tried to run something from the car an popped something...


I will be getting a spark to look it over


Personbilly
23/3/2015 at 10:38am
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If top wires are from fridge & bottom wiring is coming from your 12s cable then the black earth cable should be connected to fridge not the white earth, thats normal connection. That connector block looks like its only 5amp so not enough, current to fridge while towing is about 10amp hence overheated bit. Replace with a strip of 15amp connector block & problem solved. Or even easier detach the 4 wire ends & connect with blue crimp connectors.

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Personmudcow007
23/3/2015 at 12:21pm
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cheers for the reply,

from what i can figure out,

1 pair of red & black is water pump

1 pair of red & black is fridge

the other disappear under the fridge...never to be seen again


we only have one socket on the back of the car so its either battery or hookup for us


the brown & blue are the 12v from the battery, weirdly its fused (which was bodged with foil) on the negative side


Personbilly
23/3/2015 at 2:19pm
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If its a 3way fridge then 12v is only while towing so if 12s is not plugged into car & it is fridge wire from car that has burnt then nothing to worry about as no power without 12s plugged in.


Personsymondodj
23/3/2015 at 7:19pm
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id have all that out.

something doesn't look exactly safe there.

for the amount of things wired into the unit it should be easy enough to assign each pair (+ and -) to each appliance/circuit.

what I do find baffling is the lack of fuses or circuit breakers. itd be easy enough to fit a blade fuse holder in between all that to avoid any more burnt cables


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Personmudcow007
23/3/2015 at 8:25pm
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i think thats what i will do to be honest symondodj.

this is our first folder, so a bit confused hwo it all works anyway to be honest (no manuals etc)

but from understanding, we either run off the battery, or through a EHU which in laymen's terms is like an extension lead into the camper (we have a 4 gang board with am 5A RCD etc)? is that correct (sorry for stupid sounding questions)

i need to figure out how to turn the water pump on, there is a switch under the sink, which does god knows what


an figure the fridge (3 way supposedly)

ohh an the cooker/ grill!!


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23/3/2015 at 8:30pm
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just re done our first effort too. fitted a 12v system for powering phones/tablets and led lighting all round.

Also fitted a 240v battery charger to feed the 12v battery on board. just waiting for my rcd to arrive to finish the puzzle off.

good luck with your new venture!


Personbilly
23/3/2015 at 8:32pm
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The 12v & 230v wiring will be separate. Its the 12v side in your picture. Do you have a transformer/charger? This will charge battery while you are plugged into ehu. 3way fridge will run off mains while you are on site & you will have 3pin mains sockets. Interior lights & water pump will run off 12v. If your water pump or lights are faulty at all then inline battery fuse will blow.


Personmudcow007
23/3/2015 at 8:56pm
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cheers all, i have already bought the led's (like a big kid!!)

cheers guys, we don't have a charger anywhere (ours is a '96 - so an old girl) is it worth trying to pick-up a charger?

was going to fit a voltmeter too

just had a quick look at the pump an feed pipe (clear) is mangy so that will need changing

the rubber gas hose is stamped 1996 - so safe to say that needs changing too


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23/3/2015 at 9:02pm
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For the cost. Id fit a charger. It will free up power for other things instead of phone chargers and lights. Mine was not much more than a tenner and has a diode to stop it reversing itself so I can leave it plugged in and out cuts off once its fully charged with led indicators on.

I just had a guy sort our gas out. For the cost of a few quid a new house adds done peace of mind.


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Personmudcow007
24/3/2015 at 9:42am
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blimey where did you find a charger for a tenner!?!? all the ones im finding are £60+


Personbilly
24/3/2015 at 10:31am
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It depends what you mean by a charger. A transformer/charger that is installed as part of electrics in camper is about £90. If you have an older camper it might just have mains electrics installed with a battery fitted for lights/tap that is charged from car while driving, ie no fitted charger. So to save the expense of upgrading to properly installed transformer/charger you can use a cheap plug in trickle charger £10, plugged into mains socket while on ehu to charge battery overnight as needed while on site.


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24/3/2015 at 11:10am
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Amazon.

A standard car charger will do the job. Just make sure its got a system in built to turn it off when full



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