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Persongo_ahead2000
23/4/2015 at 8:45am
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My garage has a slight incline leading into it which means I have to reverse my 650kg trailer by car from the road into my garage.

If there is a car parked opposite my garage then this can be very tricky. I decided to buy a £45 12v winch and put it in the garage so all I have to do is connect the winch and click a switch. I tried it out last weekend and it took about 2 mins to put the trailer back in the garage. No more stress after my camping trips! I used the hand crank on the winch as I found it so easy so didn't even bother hooking up the power. I wished I had done it sooner.


Personandy monty
23/4/2015 at 10:04am
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Is it braked? If you pull it up backwards partially apply the handbrake as the auto reverse brakes will release when pulling back but slow or stop it rolling forward should the winch fail :)


Persongo_ahead2000
23/4/2015 at 10:28am
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Thanks for the tip unfortunately it's not a braked version. I did connect my spare tow rope as insurance just in case the winch cable was defective to avoid the trailer going onto the road. The winch is rated at 2267 kg rolling weight.


PersonMrT007
23/4/2015 at 10:42am
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I've done the same and pull my pathfinder up, but always worry the cable will snap.

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PersonMrT007
23/4/2015 at 10:48am
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Persongo_ahead2000
23/4/2015 at 11:00am
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Personsmartecosse
23/4/2015 at 6:57pm
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brilliant idea.....

surprised a 650kg unit isnt braked....


Persongo_ahead2000
23/4/2015 at 8:10pm
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I guess the manufacturer (Trigano) thought that as the legal maximum for a trailer without brakes is 750kg they would not be required. I drive a Vauxhall Insignia Estate so it's in charge when towing.


Personsmartecosse
23/4/2015 at 8:42pm
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I have a globetrotter from Raclet (part of trigano) that 650 and its braked, so was the quickstop from them that was even lighter and it was braked as well.

strange as i had actually thought that the trigano ones were always better kitted out than the raclets


Persongo_ahead2000
23/4/2015 at 9:33pm
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If you tow with a small vehicle I suppose you might take it into consideration. I guess that is why they have weight limits and speed limits.


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Personnavver
24/4/2015 at 8:34pm
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I think if I had to tow even a small trailer down a long hill with wife, kids, dog & luggage in the car, I would want it braked, whatever car I was driving.


Persongo_ahead2000
25/4/2015 at 8:36am
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I could take that last post to say that I do not value the safety of my family and I do not appreciate it. I would be happier using my gears to slow down my descent downhill even if my trailer was braked but appreciate that some people would rather feather their brakes nawer.


PersonStixJimbo
25/4/2015 at 8:48am
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Quote: Originally posted by go_ahead2000 on 25/4/2015
I could take that last post to say that I do not value the safety of my family and I do not appreciate it. I would be happier using my gears to slow down my descent downhill even if my trailer was braked but appreciate that some people would rather feather their brakes nawer.


I fully agree, people rely far too much on brakes when actually proper use of gears is the better way to slow down or control your speed when going down hill. If you use your brakes for a long period when going down a hill you risk them 'fading' and becoming ineffective due to overheating, especially if you're trying to slow a fully laden car and TT\FC.

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Personnavver
26/4/2015 at 10:40pm
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I'm merely stating that I personally would always prefer to have a braked trailer, nothing more. Having had brake fade regularly with a car it is terrifying because the brakes just stop working. As it only happens on a steep hill it is not good and the gears won't do a lot to help.

The car was a 6 month old Rover 216 G reg so 1989 I think. The brake discs were not ventilated and my feeling was that they should have been. In my Haynes manual, the 213 had non ventilated discs but the 216 had ventilated.

I've not had any problem like that with a car since but the experience has made me feel that driving down a steep hill, such as Lansdowne Hill into Bath, a 1 in 10 or 8 for 2 miles or more, I would not want 750kg of unbraked trailer on the back. 3/4 of a ton that is.


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27/4/2015 at 12:53am
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The winch is a good idea, hadn't thought of using one for that.

As for brakes and towing our TT maxes out at 650kg unbraked and absolutely no dramas towing it. Our 04 plate zafira has disks all round unlike an 89 rover 213 ! (The 213 had that fantastically reliable Honda engine btw.)

It's not all about having ventilated disks , size of the disks and what pads you use makes a huge difference. Having disks on the back too makes a big difference as well.
Certain brands of brake pads can work better than others.so many variables to consider with brakes and certain combinations of components work better than others.


Persongo_ahead2000
27/4/2015 at 8:05am
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The 750kg legal limit of the unbraked trailer means that the car will be able to come to a safe stop at a 12% gradient. The safety law takes into account the fact that we do not live in Holland.



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