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23/6/2015 at 8:57am
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Quote: Originally posted by Blue Sky Pennine on 22/6/2015
Can tell you're a brand new member AdanClinton. you won't get better advice than on here.

OK. With a budget of £1,000, you can get something pretty decent. A couple of people, myself included, have asked if you want a folding camper or a trailer tent. This is because many who are new to the scene swear blind they want a trailer tent, mainly because they aren't aware of the difference, and, often, it turns out they are actually after a folding camper, so, if you don't mind, I'll take a look at both, to give you something to compare.

The man difference is that a trailer tent is, basically, a tent in a trailer. Mostly, the trailer part will contain one or two double beds, some storage space, and, maybe, a couple of bench style seats. The vast majority of the living / cooking etc is usually performed in the awning area. Because they are like 'normal' tents, they take a lot longer to set up, and have to be pegged out, in use. A folding camper is more like a caravan (sorry for swearing, but all in context. lol) with a canvas top, so a lot more equipment withing the trailer, can be used without the awning, and doesn't need pegging (unless using the awning. Where folding campers lose out is that they are, generally, heavier than trailer tents, due primarily to the extra equipment, which will, usually, include a kitchen, one or more settees, storage, and a couple of double beds.

If you are looking at starting out, and after something lighter, then your folding camper options are more restricted. The very lightest are the Pennine Aztec and Dandy Four (later known as the Dandy Dart). Both are under the 500kg mark, fully laden. Slightly larger models worth looking at include the Pennine Apollo and Fiesta and Trigano Randger 415, as well as the Conway Countryman and Challenger. All of these are a little heavier, though, and are more in the 500kg - 750kg range. Over that, and you're into the 6 berth models, which a lot of people do start out with, quite happily, but, as your original post says the most light weight ones, then these are going to be way off the mark.

On to trailer tents. As Miserly says; Camplets are an option well worth considering, as are the Combi-Camps. Both are quick pitch. Neither as quick as the blurb says, but the Combi-Camps can be up in a couple of minutes, 5 with pegging etc, plus awning time. Camplets tend to be that bit more expensive, and there are less around within your budget, than there are Combis, but they are still around, and, definitely, worth a look.

To be honest, most trailer tents are going to be under 500kg, so very easy to maneuver, both hitched and unhitched. You will normally find there is a trade off between size and speed. Larger, traditional style TTs will have loads of space, but take much longer to pitch. Smaller models, like those above, will, generally, be lighter and faster to set up / take down, but the space is considerably less than many traditional TTs.

Keeping weight as the main criteria here, then, combi-Camps and Camplets are the two main options, and most commonly available. Taking weight to it's ultimate conclusion though, there are a number of smaller models around, many of which are designed to be towed by a motor bike.

Camp master do a range of these, including the Campmaster 4 and Drenthe, both of which should be in budget.

Comanche also do / have done a number of motor cycle based TTs. The current models will be over budget, but the older models, like the Brisa, should be available for what you have to spend. Less common are another Spanish manufacturer; Inesca. these crop up reasonably regularly, and models like the Tirol are amongst the lightest available.

The main problem with these ultra light ones is, of course, that most don't feature their own kitchen, and hence the previous questions as to whether or not you have existing cooking facilities you could migrate from your current tent to a TT. Also, many of them are only 2 berth, so, if weight is your biggest issue, and you want a 4 berth with kitchen, then Camplet and Combi-Camp are your best options, though a combi-Camp with a kitchen is less likely to be within budget.


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Yes ,I am a new member ,can we make friends each other? I accept your advice and want to know more knowledge from you.


24/6/2015 at 9:36am
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My experience is with the quick erect trailer tents, a couple of which have been mentioned.

On weight and size of trailer the Camplet Is great. It's very light, easy to manoeuvre and store. It can be pitched solo, although if there's any wind that becomes less realistic, and it can take more than two pairs of hands to get any of the pram hood style tents pegged if it's windy. You get a good quality unit, two double beds, a kitchen which you don't have to lift, and a reasonable sized awning. The downsides are a low kitchen, little room for expansion, no smaller stop over option, the internal packing space is on the beds, so that has to be emptied before you can use them, it can be awkward to pack, and I've had more comfortable beds. Going from a tunnel tent, SIMs and sleeping bags we loved it, but once the kids started needing their own space we had problems.

The Combi Camp we have now is a lot bigger and heavier but we love it. The kitchen is fixed and at a reasonable height, the main unit is up in minutes and doesn't need pegging and the awning is really easy.

In between we had a Jametic (very like a Trigano Odyssee), which was a great family sized unit, but the kitchen drove me mad, and it was very definitely a two person job. The trailer was pretty big as well, and again not light.

Raclet do some quick erect units which are quite compact, we looked at a Moovea, and that was really light. The Solena is a hard top like the
Combi Camp, but smaller, and has no kitchen. More traditional trailer tents are often smaller, so maybe lighter, but outside my experience!

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01/7/2015 at 3:55pm
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We have just made the same move from a tent to trailer tent last year we borrowed my nieces sunncamp it wasn't in the best condition after a lot of swearing and nearly divorce in pouring rain over where poles went we got it up had the weekend in it found it was for us. We sold our tent but kept nearly all our other equipment and started looking wife wanted tt with zip in groundsheet settled on either a trigano galleon (agreed a sale on one then got messed about) or a cabanon stratos ended up with a stratos last month we got the one without the kitchen just use our cooker and stand from tent (tried the cooker on my nieces didn't see point and was really heavy) We paid £1200 for ours it came with quite a bit of stuff which most of it was duplicated of what we had so I sold it on made £150 back ours is easy to put up only 3 poles so no weight of the poles either seen odd one on ebay since end with no bids at £1000 some had kitchen on them


19/7/2015 at 10:20pm
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You need to make sure you are buying a TT for the right reasons.
We also did the same – We were campers in a tent but felt natural progression to get a trailer tent. We thought this would be an easier setup now having a toddler and the trailer would give us adequate storage. We have never been sold on the attached kitchens as we think they are too heavy and we have a kitchen from camping.
We nearly bought a new Sunncamp 400s but saw a 2nd hand Sunncamp 240s at a retailer in perfect condition. On our first trip it was a nightmare to erect despite several practices beforehand but it was our first attempt with our 2 years old son which didn’t help. There must be 40 pegging points on the TT. It was about 2 hours to fully pitch and 3 hours to pack up.
Staying in the tent it was cold and drafty with no SIG. There was no benefit to staying off the floor. The different heights on the tent inside didn’t do us any favours with our little one either.
Our next trip in in 2 weeks to France for 2 weeks and we were dreading putting the TT up in the heat. We have now sold the TT losing a small fortune in less than a year and have opted for a Kampa Croyde 6 Air. We tested it over the weekend and it was up in 30 mins. Never considered the Airbeam tents but it was so easy.


20/7/2015 at 11:51am
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Go and have a look at new ones in your local dealerships. Ok, I know they're out of your price range but it'll give you a much better idea of what you're actually looking for.
Me, I'd give a thumbs up to the Combicamp 'cos we've got one now as we're getting a bit too old to cope with tents. It does take about 5 mins to set up including the kitchen so we stop for a cuppa then put the awning roof up which takes about 15 mins - it does need pegging, but the tt itself doesn't.



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