I am looking at buying a Dandy 4 (due to the lack of canvas to dry). I previously owned a Penine Fiesta (an older version without gas struts) and found that I had great difficulty unfolding the bed bases to erect it. From looking at videos of the Dandys they look like the walls and roof are separate, unlike the Fiesta. Is this correct and does it make the Dandy lighter to assemble?
Also does anyone have any advice/ pertinent questions I should ask when buying an older second hand model?
When you say an older second hand model how old do you mean. They stopped making them in 2008 but they do last for donkeys years so a 2nd had even an old one is a good proposition. the PVC etc cleans up just like new with a bit of work.
Not sure of your budget but by saying a Dandy 4 they will be the brown ones from the 80s or earlier. When light blue and white came out in 1987 they were called the Dart.
The only problems you may encounter are more to do with the chassis meaning wheel bearings, brakes etc which are all easily sorted or possibly rust. They were galvanised but after 50 years you may find a rusty chassis.
Another possible weakness is the corners of aluminium beds. They can crack especially if gas struts have been fitted.
Most are fine. They are so simple there is little to go wrong. Ian at Riva Leisure was the factory foreman for many years and later bought the company. Although they don't manufacture, he still services, repairs and sells 2nd had ones. He has masses of spare parts etc so you should be well covered if you need any.
The units themselves last for ever and oddly, the older they are the better built they were. They are held together almost exclusively by pop rivets. A selection of rivets and a gun are essential enabling most repairs to be done in a couple of minutes.
I don't know how heavy the canvas folding campers are to assemble. The dandy is quite heavy. Will you unfold it on your own or with a helper. For one it's heavy but for two not so.
Mine had gas struts and was a 2005 designer. This made it easy to unfold on my own. As you fold the bed over strings pull a hoop up which lifts the roof. Up until 2003 the beds were aluminium framed which was much lighter than the steel they used from then on.
It's useful to have some weight in the bed because having lifted it past upright the weight pulls the roof up. The roof is quite heavy being about 10mm thick. This means it can be better not to have gas struts. I would say aluminium beds do not need gas struts but steel do if you want to do it on your own.
The next thing is to lift the door wall. It is heavy as well especially for the initial lift getting it off the ground. A helper can lift from the other side and make it easy. Alternatively if you are on your own, you can lift it and rest it on a step or box then go to the other side to lift it fully. That makes it much easier. Once up you simply open the door and that holds it up.
The window wall is quite easy on your own. You can lift it a bit then put in a roof pole and simply push it up.
If you are old and infirm with a dodgy shoulder etc, you might struggle.
Thanks for your advice, I really appreciate it. It's really useful to know about the aluminium or steel beds and the tip on putting the door up. I am fairly fit and strong but would be doing it on my own. I used to have help with the Penine, hence my concern about managing alone. It will probably be a Dandy 4, I go for or an early Dart due to budget.