Home

   Log in or Register



Insurance Quotes
forums Campsite Search Comp Directory tips virtual brochure Profile
Tent and Awning Reviews Competitions Caravans and Motorhomes For Sale Shopping Diary Advent Calendar

Advertisement

Message Forums

Welcome Guest Register Login Search The Forum Posts Since Last Visit
 Reception - All Forums
  Trailer Tents and Folding Campers
Share   Post on X / Twitter  Share on Facebook  Email  Printer Friendly Version Print
Subject Topic: Dandy Riva Destiny 2006 Question Post Reply Post New Topic
25/6/2019 at 8:54pm
 Location: None Entered
 Outfit: None Entered
View stubbo's Profile View Profile   Reply to stubbo Reply   Quote stubbo Quote  
Joined: 25/6/2019

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   7

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Hi there,

Thanks to anyone reading.

First some background.

The missus and I are considering taking the plunge in one of the above (Dandy Riva Destiny 2006) that from some pictures looks in decent knick and is local to us.

Reasoning being that she's grown up knowing folding campers and camping holidays, her folks having owned Conways and Pennines over the years. It's never been my thing, but with her being a teacher and us having a couple of small kids (1.5 and 3.5) and the costs of Summer School-aligned holidays, this is a sensible way to go.

My preference could be a regular caravan (I've grown up knowing holidays in a static in Suffolk) and being susceptible to mild asthma anything that exacerbates damp cold air is not ideal, although the Dandy with it's insulated sides seems to be a reasonable compromise here.

Tow-caravans won't work for us as she passed her driving test after 1997, and our towing car is already 2200KG when empty (Jeep Commander 3.0), so we'd quickly pass the 3500KG limit for her to tow, plus the idea of a caravan snaking or going over is of concern as her grandparents had a near miss back in the day.

So long story short, the FC looks like being the way to go, and we're leaning towards a Dandy on account of the insulated interior, durability, and the put-away-wet capability (we're not the best for either maintenance or time intensive tasks with the two young kids and both working) given it's been one of her parents bug bears over the years with their FCs.

Our budget is circa 5K at a push.

But the question we have about the Dandy is (and having trawled the forums can't find an answer to) what is the deal if you have to put it up when it's raining.

My understanding of the the more traditional FC is that the canvas and sides are all part of the same and so folding out in the wet everything is already covered. The Dandy sounds like that isn't the case, and there would be the potential for the interior to get wet while trying to put up the sides and fasten the roof to the sides? Is this the case and is it a big deal for when trying to stick up and it's chucking it down (which at some point in the UK or Northern France will be inevitable).

Would be great to get comment from anyone that knows. Also how practical would this model be for one person putting it up on their own? She'll likely at times go away without me as she gets more holiday time than me (another reason the Dandy appeals given the half terms in late winter/early spring and late Autumn), and also with the kids the age they are one person needs to monitor them while the other does any practical task.

Apologies for the long rambly message, and thanks in advance for any guidance or insight offered.


via mobile 25/6/2019 at 10:56pm
 Location: Scottish Borders
 Outfit:  Elddis Whirlwind GT
View queensmessenger's Profile View Profile   Reply to queensmessenger Reply   Quote queensmessenger Quote  
Joined: 31/3/2009

Gold Member
Gold Member

Forum Posts:   231

Site Reviews Total: 1
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

All Dandies require 2 people for erection and take down and unless you are well practised will get very wet inside. A groundsheet inside will stop some of this but in a torrential downpour will not stop much. Better choice would be a trailer tent with pram hood style erection that is quick and gets you undercover sooner. Inside stays dry. If you have space at home it is easy to open up to dry out. Even Dandies get hard to shift mould on the material if not dried out and simply cannot be left until next time away.

-------------
Doug


via mobile 25/6/2019 at 11:08pm
 Location: Royal Forest of Dean
 Outfit:  Swift Major 4SB
View Rob and Tina's Profile View Profile   Reply to Rob and Tina Reply   Quote Rob and Tina Quote  
Joined: 17/10/2007

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   3375

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

You need to check the gross vehicle weight of your car to make sure that you can tow a Dandy.

Have a look on YouTube to see how the Destiny goes up.

Rob


via mobile 26/6/2019 at 5:23am
 Location: None Entered
 Outfit: None Entered
View stubbo's Profile View Profile   Reply to stubbo Reply   Quote stubbo Quote  
Joined: 25/6/2019

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   7

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

My gross vehicle weight rating would be circa 2800 KG, so I assume you mean what would I actually be loading it with and what would that add to the kerb weight then what would the total mass be with the 1000kg max weight Dandy attached?

Thanks to QueensMessenger for the insights above. Sounds like it could be a problem!


via mobile 26/6/2019 at 7:11am
 Location: Royal Forest of Dean
 Outfit:  Swift Major 4SB
View Rob and Tina's Profile View Profile   Reply to Rob and Tina Reply   Quote Rob and Tina Quote  
Joined: 17/10/2007

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   3375

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

The law relating to towing with a B licence uses the max plated weights of the vehicles. Check the weight plate on your vehicle. If the max weight of your car is 2800kg and the trailer is 1000kg then the two added together exceeds 3500kg and it can not be driven by someone with a B licence. You can check the .gov website for clarification on this.


Rob


Advertisement

Handiworld


26/6/2019 at 9:41am
 Location: Lincolnshire
 Outfit: Pennine Pathfinder FC.
View Junior pullman's Profile View Profile   Reply to Junior pullman Reply   Quote Junior pullman Quote  
Joined: 15/7/2017

Gold Member
Gold Member

Forum Posts:   315
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 9
Site Reviews 2024: 2  
Site Reviews 2023: 2  
Site Reviews 2022: 1  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 2  
Site Reviews 2018: 1  
Site Nights 2024: 18
Site Nights 2023: 3
Site Nights 2022: 5
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 28
Site Nights 2018: 14

When our son was 2 we bought our first trailer tent. It was perfect for us at the time. We could pull up ,level, unclip the top and open up. If it was raining, we had instant cover, plus our son had room to sit and play with his toys,so there wasn’t the issue with him getting bored, more importantly he was safe if we were in and out unpacking the car. we would sit him in his bed pod.The opening up of the trailer was so easy and only took a few minutes where we would leave our son strapped in his car seat.
I think this would suit you better in the respect that it would be easier to erect. Our son was asthmatic, and he never had it any worse in the trailer than he did at home, even on the wettest of holidays. I hope this info is useful and you find something to suit you all. 😊

-------------
Love The Life You Live.


26/6/2019 at 8:18pm
 Location: West country
 Outfit: Mondeo
View navver's Profile View Profile   Reply to navver Reply   Quote navver Quote  
Joined: 23/8/2008

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   4663

Site Reviews Total: 1
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

The Destiny is a big lump of a dandy. This is the toilet model. It is probably quite difficult for one to erect although some can do it. The hard part being putting the bed support bars on their tubes at the end of the camper.

A designer would be a better choice and ideal for 2. It is possible and quite easy to erect for one person but easier with 2.

As regards erecting in rain. The beds fold over and raise the roof as they do. The beds are mostly covered at this stage and the interior is covered by the exterior of the side walls.

You then lift the side walls up into place. At this stage if the roof has a puddle of water on it, it can fall inside but this can be prevented by pushing up on the roof before raising the side walls and being careful that the roof does not fall inside the side wall.

After the side walls are up the end walls are raised under the roof and the batwings (PVC walls by the beds) are fixed into place. It is now fully water proof.

They can be left wet for long periods. I've left mine for about 3 months and the only problem was the PVC windows were covered with milky white clouding which couldn't be wiped off. After a couple of hours this completely disappeared on its own and all was well.

If the PVC gets dirty it can be cleaned so it looks like new again after many, many years simply by using some CIF crème cleaner. The only thing it wont remover is the stain left after someone has left a spare wheel on it for a long time. You will notice only previous owners ever do this.

In coldish misty weather, the inside of the roof can get wet from condensation even though the roof is insulated. I found running a small electric heater cleared this in no time. I used a quartz infra red heater which can be set to 400 watts or 800 watts. 400 was all we ever needed. It just sat on the floor and had a trip switch which cut it out if it was knocked over.

I'm not sure if the roof lining which is available would stop the condensation but I do doubt it would. With the electric heater it was warm and dry and probably the nearest you will get to a caravan for the weight. MTPLM is only 500kg so well in for your licence.

Link to Riva Dandy where you can buy them and get full support and advice from Ian.

Post last edited on 26/06/2019 20:22:32http://www.rivadandysales.co.uk/

Post last edited on 26/06/2019 20:25:44


via mobile 27/6/2019 at 9:56pm
 Location: None Entered
 Outfit: None Entered
View stubbo's Profile View Profile   Reply to stubbo Reply   Quote stubbo Quote  
Joined: 25/6/2019

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   7

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Thanks again to those who replied!

Food for thought for sure, and given we're buying with a view to us and two kids, the designer would likely not be big enough and the wife wants the indoor toilet.

Looks like no matter what, she's going to need to do her B and E test (or we'll need a lighter car).


28/6/2019 at 7:42pm
 Location: West country
 Outfit: Mondeo
View navver's Profile View Profile   Reply to navver Reply   Quote navver Quote  
Joined: 23/8/2008

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   4663

Site Reviews Total: 1
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

If she takes the test you can tow a proper caravan (even a twin axle leviathan) or the Dandy Toilet Destiny which will have loads of room.


via mobile 30/6/2019 at 8:17am
 Location: North Yorkshire
 Outfit: Dandy and Tents
View JacquiR's Profile View Profile   Reply to JacquiR Reply   Quote JacquiR Quote  
Joined: 29/4/2012

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   55
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 6
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

We have a smaller Dandy (a 1970s 4/5) and it works quite well for us and our young children (nearly 3 and 5). At the moment we each share a bed with one of the children so they can't fall out in the night. Our solution to the indoor toilet is a portable toilet in the awning - it works well for overnight use and those moments when the children need to go Now. We can put the Dandy up without things inside getting wet, but I couldn't do it on my own, although my husband might give it a go. The bed boards are too heavy for me to manage easily, and I think I would find the side walls tricky too. I don't know whether newer models have gas struts which make it easier. We definitely need the awning for storing shoes, coats, toys, table and chairs, wash stuff etc. We sometimes leave the children in the car watching their DVD player while we put the main part of the trailer up. Other times they will play around the pitch happily while we put the tent up. That's got better now they are a little bit older. Hope you can find the right set up for your family.



In order to post a reply you will need to register, or if already registered please log in here

Prev       Next
Quick Links - All Forums - Trailer Tents and Folding Campers - Top of Page

Printer Friendly Version Printable version      Share   Post on X / Twitter  Share on Facebook  Email


Latest News, Discounts and Competitions  see all...














9411 Visitors online !

Free UKCampsite.co.uk Window Sticker  -  Recommend to Friend  -  Add a Missing Campsite

[Message Forums]  [Caravan Sites & Camping]  [Company Listings]  [Features / Advice]  [Virtual Brochure]  [Shop!]
[Reception]  [Competitions]  [Caravans & Motorhomes For Sale]  [Event Diary]  [Contact Us]  [Tent Reviews



Please note we are not responsible for the content of external sites & any reviews represent the author's personal view only. Please report any error here. You may view our privacy and cookie policy and terms and conditions here. All copyrights & other intellectual property rights in the design and content of this web site are reserved to the UKCampsite.co.uk © 1999 - 2024


Advertisement


Advertisement


UKCampsite.co.uk
2024 Advent Calendar


Advent Calendar

24 Daily Prizes PLUS a Christmas Day Star Prize worth £999

Request a Reminder