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18/8/2021 at 1:12pm
 Location: wales
 Outfit: 2020 Raclet Quickstop SE
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Hi all not sure if this is the correct forum to post this in but on my search for a new trailer tent have come up with these fabrics on the models i have been looking at and would like some views of the experienced campers on the quality on what they think is the better of the two Canvas or TenCate


18/8/2021 at 1:40pm
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Hello, it might help if I point out that Tencate is a company that makes fabrics. In general though, canvas is hard to beat as a tent fabric.


18/8/2021 at 2:27pm
 Location: wales
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Hi I noticed on the TRIGANO I looked at it just says canvas and on the RACLET it says 100 cotton with a logo that says TenCate wanted to know if it was something different as on the TenCate web site it says

(it is made from 100% cotton. breathable, water-repellent, mildew and mould resistant and has moisture regulation ability)

and the tents I have had have always been polyester I thought the canvas was not mildew and mould resistant so any thoughts on this would be very helpful


18/8/2021 at 6:58pm
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going back a few years CGI (otherwise known as Cabanon) and Tencate Dutch canvas company were the two top manufacturers of canvas and many a debate has taken place on just which was the best now Im not sure but I don't believe Cabanon exists as an independent company might be wrong.Tencate still producing canvas and the more modern polycotton mixes.

For me I'm old fashioned canvas every time   


18/8/2021 at 8:24pm
 Location: Derby.
 Outfit: Karsten 350+Awnings
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"Karsten camping tents are made with high-quality Ten Cate tent canvas, made of 100% cotton. This material is highly breathable and has excellent moisture-regulating abilities. This keeps the climate inside the tent pleasant. What's more, it is highly weather-proof.

Composition of the tent canvas:
The canvas: High-quality Ten Cate KD48 tent canvas. Warp and weft from twisted (double) yarns, 100% of carefully selected high-quality cotton with excellent breathability.

Weight: app. 310 gr/m2

Tensile strength warp: At least 120 kg/5 cm

Weft: At least 100 kg/5 cm

Hydrostatic head: At least 40 cm

Colours: Dyed with special dyes which have shown optimum resistance to discolouring.

After-treatment: In order to maximise resistance to rot and mould, the tent canvas is appropriately water-proofed."




The above is taken from the Karsten Website...
https://www.karstententen.com/inflatable-tents/specifications-prices/



Now, I don't claim to understand any of that. I've no idea whether that means my tent is absolutely fantastic or rubbish, but I do know that it is absolutely fantastic!
I've no idea how that compares with any other form/brand of cotton canvas, or any other tents on the market.

To paraphrase the late great former manager of my local football team... "I wouldn't say my tent is the best tent on the market, but it's in the top one"!   

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2024: 38 nights thus far...
2023: 47 nights
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2020: Just 24 nights
2019: A personal best 50 nights
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18/8/2021 at 8:44pm
 Location: Devizes Wiltshire
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Quote: Originally posted by Mucker1884 on 18/8/2021

Weight: app. 310 gr/m2




I just checked the spec of my old and last tent, namely the ESVO Bedouin 340, and the outer tent is made of 340gr/m2 cotton canvas.

DK

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* Apple The Campervan - A Van For Work, Rest And Play! *
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18/8/2021 at 9:58pm
 Location: Derby.
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Quote: Originally posted by dk168 on 18/8/2021
Quote: Originally posted by Mucker1884 on 18/8/2021

Weight: app. 310 gr/m2




I just checked the spec of my old and last tent, namely the ESVO Bedouin 340, and the outer tent is made of 340gr/m2 cotton canvas.

DK



Maybe so, but could you get yours in Green! eh? EH?



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2024: 38 nights thus far...
2023: 47 nights
2022: 40 nights
2021: 30 nights
2020: Just 24 nights
2019: A personal best 50 nights
2018: Just the 30 nights
2017: 34 nights
2016: 32 nights
2015: 38 nights
2014: 34 nights
2013: 36 nights
From July 2012: 23 nights


18/8/2021 at 11:11pm
 Location: Devizes Wiltshire
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Quote: Originally posted by Mucker1884 on 18/8/2021

Maybe so, but could you get yours in Green! eh? EH?





The front panel was green, so there!

DK


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* Apple The Campervan - A Van For Work, Rest And Play! *
- 2025 - inc. FR & DE
- 2024 - 10/56 inc. FR & NL
- 2023 - 48 inc. FR
- 2022 - 49
- 2021 - 34
* Ex-tenter & solo female camper *
* Treat life events like a dog: If you can't eat it, play with it, or hump it, p1$$ on it and walk away! *


19/8/2021 at 9:05pm
 Location: Derby.
 Outfit: Karsten 350+Awnings
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Oh! I give up!



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2024: 38 nights thus far...
2023: 47 nights
2022: 40 nights
2021: 30 nights
2020: Just 24 nights
2019: A personal best 50 nights
2018: Just the 30 nights
2017: 34 nights
2016: 32 nights
2015: 38 nights
2014: 34 nights
2013: 36 nights
From July 2012: 23 nights


19/8/2021 at 10:35pm
 Location: North Devon
 Outfit: Robens Fairbanks Coleman Phad X3
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Quote: Originally posted by Mucker1884 on 19/8/2021
Oh! I give up!





I'd have gone with '340gsm is well known to be too heavy.' in the first place.



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20/8/2021 at 5:45am
 Location: Derby.
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Damn!

Yes... ^^^ THIS^^^!



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2024: 38 nights thus far...
2023: 47 nights
2022: 40 nights
2021: 30 nights
2020: Just 24 nights
2019: A personal best 50 nights
2018: Just the 30 nights
2017: 34 nights
2016: 32 nights
2015: 38 nights
2014: 34 nights
2013: 36 nights
From July 2012: 23 nights



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