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Subject Topic: Gas works for 5 seconds, then nothing. Post Reply Post New Topic
18/7/2005 at 11:40am
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We have recently brought a Peninne Pathfinder folding camper, and have the following problem:

When we camped last week the gas worked fine, but when went camping this week, the hob/oven doesnt work. We turn on the gass, light it, it then catches alight, but the flame goes out within 2 seconds. Its like some kind of safety cut off is stopping the gas. We wait 1 minute, then exactly the same thing happens again.

There is loads of gas in the cannister, all pipe valves are open. The same thing happens to the fridge and the oven, so it looks like a complete gass problem.

Are these the types of symptoms you get when your regulator goes? The pathfinder is a 2004 model. Please help as this is stopping us having coffee in the morning!

Thanks

John



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it may be worth checking the gas regulator.


18/7/2005 at 3:18pm
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Does the unit have a thermocouple fitted to it?

These devices will only allow the gas to flow to the burners if they (The thermocouple) are working corectly.

http://www.heaterbands.ltd.uk/thermocouples.htm

This link will show you what to look for.

If it is the thermocouple then the only cure is replacement. Might be worth contacting the local Pennine dealer for advice. If your Ok with the DIY (Destroy it yourself) they are simple to fit.

Normaly is you have to turn and press the knob when lighting the gas then hold it for a few seconds thats a fair sign that the unit has a thermo fitted

 



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19/7/2005 at 12:52am
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John,

I had this problem with the hob on my TT unit but it was down to familiarity with the system, ie me that was the problem. what i had to do was light the burner and hold the knob in for 5 seconds then turn to full on. anything else it just went out.  Check your technique in getting it lit as it may not be the equipment.

 

hope this helps.

reghards

griv

 



19/7/2005 at 7:51am
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Hi all

Thermo couple on the hob is not the problem as all other gas systems are suffering the same symptoms. 3 Thermocouples all failing at same time ? Odds are to great.

There are therefore only 3 possible problems

1. No gas in cylinder (as been checked and dismissed)

2. Regulator is duff

3. pipe kinked or blocked

number one is still favourite, I am discounting cold too due to current weather.

 



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19/7/2005 at 11:06am
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Thanks for this.

Anybody know what the symptons are for when the regulator is failing? And can anybody recommend a Gas expert in the Winchester area to ask for an explaination?

I dont think that the pipe is kinked, as most of them are copper, and the very few bendy ones are not kinked.

Thanks

John



19/7/2005 at 12:41pm
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A new regulator would be a lot cheaper than getting a Gas expert in.If it doesn't solve the problem, then for what they cost you you'll have a spare.

I had a problem with a new stove I purchased a couple of years ago with a new regulator and cylinder. It turned out to be a problem with the gas cylinder, so it may be worth trying another one of those aswell.



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Hi all

If you read the original post you will see its ON EVERY appliance, this means its empty cyl, Pipework or Regulator.

 

It not an appliance problem

 



19/7/2005 at 3:24pm
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I notice people are saying to hold the knobs in for 5 seconds but on all the fridges I've had it has said to hold the knob in for 30 seconds and this has often been necessary.

Don't suppose this is any help to you, somewherehot, but I'm just curious as to how long everyone holds their knobs in.



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19/7/2005 at 3:26pm
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Well, when I've been trying to get this alight, there isnt much point in holding the knob in for more that 5 seconds as there is no more gas coming out of the holes...


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20/7/2005 at 12:43am
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Just a thought here,

Is your regulator the right type for the gas bottle your using.  If butane the regulator should be blue, if propane then it should be red. Mismatching the two will theoretically cuase problems but ive not had any experience with this, perhaps someone else could add to this.

As already said i would try a new regulator.  you should be able to get one for less than £10.

regards

griv

 



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Hi Grivbat

Theoretically yes, in the real world no, they will not interchange, even by accident.

The Blue Butane and Red propae are completely different, they cannot be used on the wrong bottles one is a screw fitting (propane) and the other is a clamp on fitting (butane)

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20/7/2005 at 9:51am
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Doh,

JJ your quite correct. Thanks for reminding me.  It was getting on a bit whne i posted.lol

regards

 

griv

 



20/7/2005 at 12:38pm
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We've just got a new regulator, but it will be a few weeks before we go camping again to try it out...


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fingers crossed for you.  I hope the new regulator resolves the issue.

regards

griv

 




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