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30/10/2006 at 11:07pm
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I bought a Pennine Fiesta (2001) earlier this year and when we opened it up there was a bad smell, like sour milk or even baby vomit.This permiated the whole unit to such a degree that it was offensive and unuseable. Having cleaned every part of the unit and replaced the foam in the beds, all seemed well.I noticed that a previous owner had put some kind of sealant on the underside of the bed boards stopping them from breathing so removed this and used a deoderiser on them. However the smell has returned and clearly originates in the bed boards. Oddly it seems worse in colder, damper weather than in hot weather.I wondered if someone has used some kind of anti fungal treatment to prevent mildew.
I have contacted Pennine who say that there can be a slight smell due to the sanitising wash they used to use at that time. They do not use the same one now.They were familiar with this smell but it is not normally intrusive(believe me this is!).
Before I replace the bed boards, has anyone else come across the same problem and if so , how was it resolved.
Pennine suggest using bleach on the boards and allowing it to evaporate off. If this does not cure the problem I thougnt about sealing them with varnish.
New bed boards fitted at Pennine are about £320 the pair so I am anxious not to go down that route.
Suggestions gratefully reveived.


31/10/2006 at 7:16am
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They need to breathe so the usual advice is not to varnish them. Could you sand the underside a little and then bleach?

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31/10/2006 at 11:22am
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surly the bed boards can be fitted by any compentent d.i.yer and even bad ones too.lol.
bleach is ok on the bed boards then i take it?


31/10/2006 at 8:21pm
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Pennine say bleach is o.k. and I really have nothing to lose by trying it. I will certainly look at replacing the boards myself-perhaps hire a suitable rivet gun.
I was wondering why the boaeds need to breathe. If they are sealed they will not absorb any miosture so presumably not need to breathe?
Out of interest have either of you smelt anthying like this on your units?


31/10/2006 at 9:18pm
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As I understand it, they need to breath just due to the moisture that comes out of our bodies while we're sleeping and soaks into the foam.  In our self build campervan, we're putting holes in the tops of the bed boxes so that the foam can breath downwards, and then a few vents in the bottom too.  This should help preserve the foam and the wood of the bed boxes themselves.  And hopefully we'll never have to experience these horrid smells!  Good luck with the bleach though.



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31/10/2006 at 9:49pm
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If you lie matresses on top of a non-porous surface they get a nasty black mould.



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wash them down with milton mix.


01/11/2006 at 9:22pm
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i have previously varnished [water based]the underside of bed boards on our pullman [previous unit] and had it for four years ,never had any sort of odour occur at any time, intend to do the same when we open up the fiesta in suitable conditions,

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05/11/2006 at 10:39am
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Thanks for your comments.Its interesting no one else so far seems to have had this problem. This seem to point towards a previous owner treating the boards with someting.Anyhow I've now taken all canvas and beds out for winter storage so at least they will not have picked up any of the smell by spring.The new foam matresses were already beginning to pick it up so I am hoping that they will air out over the winter.


05/11/2006 at 12:24pm
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It may be worth leaving some "tumble dryer" sheets in the unit as they give the canvas a nice fresh smell.

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10/11/2006 at 2:16pm
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    hiya  i put a moisture mate in our f/c .it takes the moisture out of the air

             and leaves it smelling claen and fresh .I also put a air fresher on the

             beds when packed up .you can get moisture mates from caravan shops

               also halfords.           derek



26/11/2006 at 11:14pm
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many thanks for all the suggestions.


27/11/2006 at 10:16pm
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But did any of them work?

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I've not tried anything yet as its packed away for the winter.


03/1/2007 at 8:37pm
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I noticed the same " spilt milk / ill smell" 2 years ago when looking for our fc. Asked the salesman about it and he said Pennine had used a different glue in the making of the bed boards for 2001 Fiesta. The smell wont go,  because this summer we had another look at the 2001 model and the smell was still apparent I would change the boards and be done with it



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03/1/2007 at 9:21pm
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Iris,
This makes sense given my experience. The smell is certainly persistent. Out of interest did the salesman say all 2001 Fiestas were affected. I would have thought this must have given rise to a lot of complaints in 2001.
I guess I will replace the boards.
Has anyone out threre any experience in replacing the boards. It looks straight forward but will need rivets and a gun.Does anyone know the size of the rivets and where I can hire a suitable rivet gun.
thanks
Glen.



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