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10/10/2024 at 9:58am
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Fiat Duccato Rapido 709f 2005

Been offered the above, 1st time motorhomers, £15, 54k miles. looks like the floor may need replacing in the future, advisories on previous MOTs that there is corrosion underneath.

Good solid van otherwise.

Any ideas of cost or is it not worth it?

Thank you in advance


via mobile 10/10/2024 at 10:18am
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No good guessing at cost, only inspection and a firm quote and then be prepared for any extra needed. Once these jobs are started often leads to more work required.

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10/10/2024 at 11:13am
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Excellent price.

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10/10/2024 at 1:56pm
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Quote: Originally posted by blueexpo97 on 10/10/2024
Excellent price.



Not if it needs a new floor which I assuming means a new complete steel van floor and not some new lino.


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No, it's definitely an excellent price.

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10/10/2024 at 5:51pm
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If it needs new steel welding into floor to pass an MOT, that is not necessarily terribly expensive on a bare bones van, BUT it's not, it's fitted out as a MH! Depending on whereabouts it needs welding potentially it would need interior fittings, sound deadening, internal wooden floors, interior trim, maybe plumbing and wiring moved out of way etc. to prevent fire risk/damage from the welding!

Only an examination of the vehicle could tell you how much work is involved, a £100 welding job could mean a £1000 strip and reassembly of internal MH fittings to make the repair possible!

I doubt anyone on here could really give you too much insight into actual cost and level of work required, it'd need details of where and extent of rust/welding to even begin that quest.

Personally, I'd be loath to trust stripping and reassembly of MH interior to an ordinary motor garage/MOT station, probably far better off in the hands of a specialists MH workshop who understand the materials and construction methods used, and that generally comes at a higher cost.

Is it all worth it? You've really got to balance the initial purchase price against firm quotes for required work, maybe factor in a little extra for the unknowns that always seem to creep into these complex jobs, and then decide if the overall cost is viable against market value of the now sound MH.


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We had lots of rust & welding done over several years on a then 30 year old VW T4. All at the cab: floor pan, wheel arches, front window frame, seatbelt attachments, door step sills. Nothing at the habitation end. Not expensive (just part of many other things that go wrong with an elderly van). We part X’d the MH for different reasons, not rust.

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2024 = 20 sites / 41 nights. 2023 = 9/23. 2022 = 13/35. 2021 = 11/29. 2020 = 4/20. 2019 = 13/35. 2018 = 20/33. 2017 = 10/22. 2016 = 19/33. 2015 = 15 sites / 27 nights. Didn't count 1976 to 2014.


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Thank you all for responding, it has been sent to a MH workshop for assessment. 🤞


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Wise move. Let us know how you get on - it might help someone else in a similar situation in future.
And I hope it all works out well.

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2024 = 20 sites / 41 nights. 2023 = 9/23. 2022 = 13/35. 2021 = 11/29. 2020 = 4/20. 2019 = 13/35. 2018 = 20/33. 2017 = 10/22. 2016 = 19/33. 2015 = 15 sites / 27 nights. Didn't count 1976 to 2014.


12/10/2024 at 3:49pm
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I've done a lot of welding over the years on cars, lorries etc. however I think you've done the right thing by taking it to someone who knows motorhomes and what the preparation involves prior to welding.


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via mobile 15/10/2024 at 11:14am
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Surely it is the wooden floor of the motorhome that is being referred to,not steel floor as according to the model is not a Campervan.

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15/10/2024 at 3:51pm
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Quote: Originally posted by birdman101 on 15/10/2024
Surely it is the wooden floor of the motorhome that is being referred to,not steel floor as according to the model is not a Campervan.



Think the clue is in the term "Corrosion"! - not normally applied to wooden structures, rather implies steel on base vehicle!

Not sure the MOT test gives a damn whether you fall through a rotten wooden habitation floor UNLESS structural to the base vehicle, test only concerned with vehicle structural integrity. Only proviso to that would be unless external panelling/fixtures have become loose/detached and deemed an external safety hazard to others. Doesn't sound like it's in anything like that bad a condition.


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The Ducato extension chassis were usually Alko and galvanised. The Alko chassis varied in length according to what length body was being built onto the cab.If galvanised and corroded I would also expect the wooden floor to be pretty bad. My friends Autotrail also built on Alko chassis was in good condition but his floor needed replacing due to rot and the body side panels dtetatching. If floor has gone it will cost more than any welding required. Needs thoroughlychecking before purchase.

Post last edited on 15/10/2024 17:03:10

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15/10/2024 at 7:04pm
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Sounds like it is riddled with damp if the floor needs replacement.
Sounds like a money pit to me, personally I’d walk away.



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