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26/6/2006 at 7:22am
 Location: Leamington Spa
 Outfit: Swift Kontiki 640
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Hi, I'm a newbie to the motorhome scene having acquired a Swift Knotiki 640 from a relative. However it doesn't have a handbook which is proving problematic for dozen's of tiny things that I'm trying to fix. I've found Swift's generic handbook pdf files but they are giving me the specifics that I need.

Can anyone recommend anywhere where I might be able to find a handbook for this vehicle?

Thanks in advance,

Chris.



26/6/2006 at 8:40am
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Have you tried ringing up Swift Tel: 01482 847332 and seeing if they can help or maybe a dealership like Brownhills http://www.brownhills.co.uk/ who actually sell both new and secondhand Swifts? They may either have a spare handbook to sell you or maybe they might know where they can get hold of one for you - who knows, but it's worth a try. 

I hope this helps you, other than that, we own a Swift Kontiki 645 and have a handbook which if you have a specific problem I can look it up for you and see if there is anything in the book that might help.

By the way welcome to UKCS  you will find lots of friendly people on here, who are more than happy to give you advice and help if you need it. Also, welcome to the fantastic world of motorhoming and once you have been out and about on your travels a few times, I am sure you soon will catch the very infectious camping bug that a lot of we UKCS members are suffering from!

 

 



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26/6/2006 at 9:18am
 Location: Derbyshire
 Outfit: Swift Kontiki 640 Vogue
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Hi Chris

I have a 1999 Kontiki 640 and all the handbooks etc. so if I can help in any way please feel free to get in touch. The original handbook is quite generic so the pdf's may be the correct ones. With respect to Brownhills if you manage to get one let us all know as it would be a major achievement. Although I live on the Notts/Derbys border the best place I have found to obtain any Swift specific bits is from West Country Motorhomes (speak to Kev in parts).

Enjoy your new vehicle and maybe we will bump into each other one day. I am at Elvaston Steam Rally this weekend if you fancy a reasonably short run and a good weekend out

Cheers

John


26/6/2006 at 9:54am
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Hey John,

Yep I agree Brownhills aren't the quickest at getting things done are they? We got our Kontitki 645 from them and have been waiting since January for some warranty work to be carried out! They have a fabulous showroom and sales area don't they and a large choice of vehicles (since buying mine I realise that they aren't the cheapest either though) but their after sales definitely lets them down big time and it doesn't half leave a lot to be desired!! Every time we have to go there for any reason, we notice frustrated and angry customers queuing up to air their grievances!



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26/6/2006 at 11:22am
 Location: In the pub.
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I'd recommend Brownhills to anyone for having a good nose and poke around if you're not too sure what you want. They've got most models under one roof and you can climb in and out of vans checking layouts etc all day long if it pleases you.  It saves the hassle of treking round the country just for a look.

Once you've made your mind up about which model/layout suits you run away!!!!  Go find another dealer.

The first time I went to Brownhills the 'suits' put me off. They looked as though they'd be equally at home selling timeshares. Someone has to pay their commission plus the overheads on the Brownhills site and fancy showroom. Don't forget the Brownhills club you get free membership of.

The buyer pays for it on the price of the motorhome.

 



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26/6/2006 at 9:23pm
 Location: Leamington Spa
 Outfit: Swift Kontiki 640
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Many thanks for the friendly welcome and advice so far all

I think my main trouble is that I'm pretty much overwhelmed by all of the different switches and gas taps that I found when I first rummaged around the van. So where the pdf manuals say things such as "ensure all gas appliances are isolated" I'm not sure if I'm doing the right things.

I guess I was hoping that the handbook would tell me things like "Before starting off ensure this particular tap is turned off and this switch over here is in so-and-so position etc"

The big problems that I currently seem to have are:
1, The plug sockets don't work off of the leisure battery
2, I can't get the fridge to run off of gas (again with the fridge I'm very much guessing that I've got the right taps open and where's the pilot light if there is one?).
3, The toilet doesn't flush (but what type is it, and how should it flush?)

From skimming the pdf guides again it looks like the electrics doc may be able to help me with the plug sockets problem so I'll have a go at reading it thoroughly and see if I can suss the problem. My knowledge does seem to be slowly growing but I keep having to re-read previous docs as I gain new terminology and understanding!

Anyway thanks again for your help so far, and btw does anyone if there's a motorhome 'teacher' in the Leamington Spa area?

Chris.



27/6/2006 at 12:16pm
 Location: Derbyshire
 Outfit: Swift Kontiki 640 Vogue
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Hi Chris

I believe that unless the van has been modified there is only 1 12volt socket and that will be adjacent to the TV aerial socket. Having read your post thorougly I am wondering if you have a complete 12 volt failure as the toilet requires 12V to operate the flush pump assuming its the electric type, the fridge requies 12V to light the pilot light for the gas and obviously 12V should be available at the 12V socket. Is 12V available when connected to the mains? I would suggest checking the distributuion unit normally in the wardrobe and that the 12V switch normally on the top is in the correct position. Once you are sure 12V is availble to light the fridge switch on the orange swicth on the fridge, a ticking noise should be heard, if this is present turn on the gas knob on the front of the fridge and hold it in until the ticking stops. This will be when the fridge has lit, the pilot light can usually be viewed via a small round viewing window in the botton corner of the fridge on the inner back wall.
If you need any more help please get in touch or have a ride up to Derby at the weekend and I wil try to help

Regards

John


28/6/2006 at 7:41am
 Location: Leamington Spa
 Outfit: Swift Kontiki 640
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Hi John,

I guess what you're saying does make a lot of sense, although I had no idea that the fridge and toilet needed 12V in order to make them work as well - thanks for the help, and yes, I've only found the one 12V socket.

Of course my comedy of errors continues: I went to move the 'van last night and it no longer wants to start for me!! Still at least I know car mechanic types so this problem should be easy enough to fix.

Oh and on another plus side having spoken to the customer service people at Swift they are now going to send me a copy of the handbook for free!  

Hopefully over the weekend I'll be able to move the 'van to test the mains hook up, and also try out your other suggestions.

Many thanks again for the help,

Chris.



28/6/2006 at 7:57am
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Hi Chris,

It could be something as simple as your leisure battery being flat. Do any of the 12V interior lights work?



29/6/2006 at 7:47am
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Yes the lights work ok, and the leisure battery has power according to the battery level tester (if that's the right term for it!).


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04/7/2006 at 11:30am
 Location: Derbyshire
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Hi Chris

Just wondered how you were getting on and if you have solved the problem yet

Regards

\john


12/7/2006 at 1:46pm
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Sorry for taking so long to reply all - of all things my ISP ceased to exist and I no longer have Internet at home

Anyway, back to the Kontiki. Sticking with just the electrics for now, if I plug in a mains connection everything works perfectly (bar the toilet flush which I'm not fussed about right now). However if I use the leisure battery the only electrics that work are still the lights - the plug sockets and fridge fail.

So I definitely have power in the leisure battery, and I can't simply have blown fuses as things work when run from the mains supply. Can anyone suggest what my next steps should be??



13/7/2006 at 10:32am
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Hi Chris

When you say things work when connected to the mains am I correct in assuming that you can now get the fridge to light on gas and you have 12volts at the sockett? If so this rules out some wiring problems as the 12v will be coming from the zig unit. The toilet flush (assuming it is an electric flush has its own in line fuse accessible through the cassette door which may have failed. I would start by removing the fuses one by one from the zig unit and checking them on a multi meter for continuity. Another assumption I have made is that the pump which also is 12 volt works OK and that the water heater will light on gas. Could you let me know what year your vehicle is and I will have a look in my documents for you
Regards

John


13/7/2006 at 1:26pm
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Thanks for the extra info John,

I was unaware of the fuse in the casette box so I'll check that out. And I've never heard of a zig unit before, but I assume it's the area that holds all of the fuses next to the power source selector? Before I had checked these fuses by simply looking for a complete wire, but are you saying that's not accurate enough?

I forgot to check the water pump when trying this out, so I'll have a go at that tomorrow. And the year of this van is 1991

Thanks again,

C.



13/7/2006 at 2:05pm
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Hi Chris

Thetford's web site gives lots of information on how to locate the parts and replace and may be of help to you. You are quite correct in saying that the wire in the fuse should be complete but ocasionally the end connections fail hence why I check with a multi meter. Another quick check you could make assuming that on the panel where the water level meters are there is a change over switch, when connected to mains switch this to the 12 volt leisure position and see if the apliances continue to be active, next disconnect the mains without altering the switch and see if anything stops

Regards

John


19/7/2006 at 1:44pm
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You were dead right thanks John - one of the fuses had corroded and I now have 12V working on the fridge & heater at last!

So I would say my priority at the moment is to try and find out why I can't get power from the plug sockets when usign 12V - I can plug in an appliance with mains power feeding in, take the mains cable out and the appliance stops instantly.

From where I've been so far it would suggest another fuse, but I've just replaced every single one in the fusebox but to no avail.

Sorry, but do you have any more ideas for me?

Chris.




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