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via mobile 29/1/2025 at 7:31am
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Have a vauxhall movano I converted at the moment and a T4. (Also a little car) I use the movano as work vehicle also.

Fancy stepping up the luxury of a proper motorhome. Also a teenager is needing more space. I've been all set looking around to see what there is but they are far from cheap. I have an old license so could get anything but for resale value I would of thought sticking to 3.5ton is the best option.

I'm going to sell the T4. Trouble is that leaves me with 2 vehicles to tax insurance etc and a motorhome. We work so most of the time the motorhome will just be sitting there.

A caravan was never on my mind but thinking about it lately, money side of things it would make sense. I could sell the T4 and the car then buy something like a pick up and a caravan for probably less than a motorhome.

That way I only have to tax etc 2 vehicles and the caravan can just happily sit there when not in use not sucking up money.

We went over the channel for the first time in the movano last year and loved it. Hence the thought of a motorhome. But I'm struggling with the huge financial commitment of one.



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We have been caravanning for many years in UK and EU. Towing is ok and once set up,we can use our car to run about.
We have travelled extensively in Australia in hired Campervans (6M vans) and Canada in a bigger motorhome. Both those countries are more geared to Motorhomes.
We are in our 70s now and have been looking at a small motorhome around 6m length. They are a lot of money and we would still need a car. We would sell the caravan and the SUV towcar. We also have a Mini which we could keep.
At the moment We manage fine. We changed our van for a smaller lighter one which we tow with a Hyundai Tucson hybrid( it replaced a bigger diesel SUV). Economy is very good, luckily the price was just under the £40k threshold so we don't have to pay higher road tax!( It's not now on latest model)
There certainly seems to be more motorhomes about now. They are pretty expensive , but then so are new caravans!
It's really down to personal choice.
If we did go the MH route we would consider getting an electric car to replace the Mini as we don't do a huge mileage. We have our own driveway so could get a charger fitted.

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Alot will depend on how you like to holiday. Do you want to go to one place and explore from there or move on every day or so?

It has taken us a while and some adjusting going from caravan to motorhome but wouldn't go back now, we are getting used to finding places near where we want to go and then moving on. We do take a car with us sometimes - depends what we are planning. To that some would say have a caravan and car but it is far easier to tow a small car behind a bigger motorhome than vice versa.

If you are planning on Europe a lot more, then a motorhome is ideal as you have the Aires etc. to make use of.


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When I realised my camping under canvas days were coming to an end back in 2015/6, I toyed with getting a caravan and bought a car that was capable in towing a decent weight.

However, in the end, I decided I did not wish to tow, and opted for a custom converted panel van which was a MWB VW Crafter.

A smaller van was ever on the card as I did not wish to have to pack the bedding away every morning for them to put out every night.

In addition, I wanted a decent kitchen and onboard facilities.

Although I could get a driveaway awning to increase the available living space for a smaller vehicle like a T5/6, I did not fancy the idea of having to pitch a tent again.

Hence it had to be a larger vehicle like the VW Crafter so that I could have a drop-down bed, and a decent kitchen and bathroom toilet and shower at the back.

She is too big to be my sole vehicle, and I have a Kia Picanto as a run around.

I go out in my van at least once a month from March to October, and over the New Year weekend too.

I sank a big chunk of my pensions into the van. She is my semi-retirement project/present to myself, as I want to be able to continue with camping when I am still physically and mentally fit to do so.

Being just under 6m in length, she can just about squeeze into a normal length and width parking space without causing obstructions/annoyance to other drivers.

The only downside is her height, in that being over 2.4m with the additional air con unit on the roof, height-restricted parking is no good for her.

I don't normally do short trips except for pit-stop overnighters, as I dislike having to pack everything away every time I move the van. That's just me.

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Now that we are in our 70s we tend to go to one place and explore the area with our car, which is why we have a caravan. If we wanted to tour, stopping one or two nights then moving on, we would definitely opt for a motorhome if we could afford one. It does depend very much on what you want to do with it.


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We are of the same opinion Colin.
I have a motorbike license so could have a scooter or small bike if we had a motorhome-but my wife wouldn't allow it!
E bikes are quite good but we don't want to cycle at our age,especially on our crappy roads!
When we were at our Bailey dealer we looked at motorhomes but decided to stick with caravans for now. You can tow a car behind one but not for us.

The vans we hired in Australia were panel van conversions, first one VW Crafter, second time a Mercedes Sprinter. Both diesel automatic ones. 6m long.We had over a month on each, 2015 and 2016 a nice size for 2 of us.


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Quote: Originally posted by 664DaveS on 29/1/2025
We have been caravanning for many years in UK and EU. Towing is ok and once set up,we can use our car to run about.
We have travelled extensively in Australia in hired Campervans (6M vans) and Canada in a bigger motorhome. Both those countries are more geared to Motorhomes.
We are in our 70s now and have been looking at a small motorhome around 6m length. They are a lot of money and we would still need a car. We would sell the caravan and the SUV towcar. We also have a Mini which we could keep.
At the moment We manage fine. We changed our van for a smaller lighter one which we tow with a Hyundai Tucson hybrid( it replaced a bigger diesel SUV). Economy is very good, luckily the price was just under the £40k threshold so we don't have to pay higher road tax!( It's not now on latest model)
There certainly seems to be more motorhomes about now. They are pretty expensive , but then so are new caravans!
It's really down to personal choice.
If we did go the MH route we would consider getting an electric car to replace the Mini as we don't do a huge mileage. We have our own driveway so could get a charger fitted.



How do you get on caravanning in EU? And where abouts do you go? Our van is under 6m long and you can just about park it in a space with a little overhang. It was great when we toured Switzerland Italy etc and as we didn't book any campsites in advance we always got a space at a campsite being the size we were. And there lies the problem I suppose. To feel more comfortable and have a roomier motorhome it's not going to be as easy to turn up to sites and get a space.

We looked at a few the other weekend and the one motorhome that gave me the wow factor was 7.3m long.


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Quote: Originally posted by George-Mildred on 29/1/2025
Alot will depend on how you like to holiday. Do you want to go to one place and explore from there or move on every day or so?

It has taken us a while and some adjusting going from caravan to motorhome but wouldn't go back now, we are getting used to finding places near where we want to go and then moving on. We do take a car with us sometimes - depends what we are planning. To that some would say have a caravan and car but it is far easier to tow a small car behind a bigger motorhome than vice versa.

If you are planning on Europe a lot more, then a motorhome is ideal as you have the Aires etc. to make use of.



We are more touring. Very rarely book anywhere until on the day or day before. I suppose what we did last year in the van was April 2 days portmeirion, 2 days Llandudno. Summer hols 2weeks Weymouth then a day in Bridlington and a day 2 days Scarborough. I normally always look for the scenic routes where ever we go.


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Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 29/1/2025
Now that we are in our 70s we tend to go to one place and explore the area with our car, which is why we have a caravan. If we wanted to tour, stopping one or two nights then moving on, we would definitely opt for a motorhome if we could afford one. It does depend very much on what you want to do with it.




As with my first post. It's going to cost us more with a motorhome as I'll have 3 vehicles to tax, insure, mot, and service. If I was retired we would just need 2 vehicles and could use the motorhome a lot more. And as you say they are not cheap. Anything I do opt for will be second hand.


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We have toured extensively in France also stayed in Luxembourg and Germany.
The roads are quieter on the whole and there are plenty of sites. Since retiring we go in June and July and use ACSI for cheaper deals. We don't book.
Driving in Europe is no bother as we have been going for years! I spent 5 years in former West Germany with the RAF.

Before retiring if we had to go in high season we would usually book,a site through the Caravan Club for a couple of weeks. Holidays were shorter then of course!
When we were stationed in Germany, we were tent campers so visited Switzerland, Austria and Italy as well as Netherlands and part of Germany we lived in!

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When we came back from our trip I said it must be great living say southern Germany. To have the Alps on your doorstep and if you like go a bit further and your on the Mediterranean. So many options and all beautiful.

I keep trying to way up costs in my head. I reckon a motorhome would cost us around £800 a year more than buying a pickup and caravan. The pickup would get used as a daily driver.


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I would not be worried about sticking to MHs at 3.5T if you are able to drive over that. Some of those at 3.5T will have very poor payloads particulary if there are 3 of you and all the stuff you may well take.

As you say you are still working, ask yourself if you had a MH do you think you'd get away even for a couple of nights more often than if you had a caravan? I say this as when we had a caravan even if it was left 'ready to go' by the time we had sorted out the towcar a morning had gone by, with a ready to go MH you could be ready to go a lot quicker.


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Do you want, quick getaways, short stays, moving on every other day or so 'touring', or do you want a 'fixed' base to explore an area from and stay for a week or two?

If you want to tour on short stays, then campers and MHs suit best. Campers are a bit basic (all too literally, a 'tin tent' in many respects), MHs have a bit of luxury about them.

Caravans and MH's are great as longer stay units, as all/most of the comforts of home. Downside of a MH is, if only transport, then there are loads of places that you really can't get such a large vehicle, such as car parks with height/width restrictions, narrow single track roads, steep winding hills etc., so bikes, buses, taxis etc. may be needed, or off site options may be restricted. Caravan gives you a solo tow car which is pretty unrestricted where you can get it. Of course, the restrictions are in proportion to the size of the MH, they vary from a panel van to a virtual truck, so that needs consideration.

Purchase and running costs may feature in your decision process. Campers and MHs are motor vehicles in their own right so attract quite high ownership and running costs, if used as an everyday vehicle then you suffer the high fuel consumption all the time and the annual fuel bill can be rather high! A caravan on the other hand only imposes high fuel consumption (expect mpg to roughly halve over solo car) when towing, and caravan can cost very little when unused.

Can't agree with George and Mildred, if you prep your caravan in advance (as you would need to do with a Camper or MH!), you can be away in 30 mins on you departure day, basically just removing security locks, hitching up, lights check etc., and I do that all on my own. My caravan's in storage away from home, and I can do that with no trouble. Ok, I've got a 45min journey to storage yard, but I'd probably have that with a MH too!

Caravans don't lend themselves to short stays and moving on every other day type touring particularly, but I've broken long journeys with an overnight stop on a camp site, it's doable, but a little bit less convenient than Camper/MH perhaps.

There are a number of Pros and Cons to each option, they are not simple straightforward alternatives, you need to think hard about potential use, purchase cost, running costs, limitations of vehicle type, level of comfort you require, not all on board facilities like toilet and shower which appear to give independence from site facilities are quite as user friendly, indeed even usable, as their mere presence would imply! Many on MHs and even some caravans are far too compact for comfortable/practical use!

When I moved up from a tent some 8 years back, I looked at every option, spent about a year looking at different options at shows and dealer forecourts, changing my mind quite a lot on what I thought I could live with and use in the way I wanted, ended up with a largish caravan, which most certainly was not on my options when I started out! Absolutely made the right decision, it's given me exactly the camping lifestyle I wanted, and I picked the perfect caravan for me first time. Time and effort of thinking about potential use and examining the options paid dividends.

If continental travel is your aim, ferry fares can be pretty steep for a caravan, but you offset that against ownership/running costs of the alternatives in working your overall budgeting - swings and roundabouts!


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We used to have a trailer tent, it gave us a lot of space but we came close to divorce everytime we put the thing up or took the thing down.

When the chance to move up to a caravan or a motorhome came up we went the motorhome route for the following reasons:

1. I HATE towing. I know how to tow, I consider myself quite good at it as I used to instruct it when I was in the RAF but I hate it. A caravan was out of the question.

2. A camper van was just too small, we had two teenagers, a boy and a girl and they needed their own personal space also we wanted to be able to camp off grid so needed an on-board kitchen, bathroom with loo and shower which wasn't an option in most of the campers we saw.

As an aside, a local dealer told us he gets so many couples coming in, already sold on the VW camper lifestyle regardless of the fact they've got 3 kids and 2 big dogs. He tries to persuade them a motorhome is better suited to their needs but they're so adamant the VW camper is the solution for them. A few months later they're back wanting to trade in for a motorhome, a cold, wet night squashed into the camper with the grumpy kids, wet dogs and no loo having persuaded them where he failed in the first place.


You need to ask yourself what type of camping you want to do. We tour usually spending a couple of nights before moving on. When we go to the continent we often stay just one night before moving on, we use aires and France Passion sites which are set up for motorhomes (they don't always have toilets/shower blocks - in fact most don't). When the kids came with us we had to go to one place and stay there (I hated it). I'm much happier with touring.

A motorhome is a big investment so you have to be prepared to use it. A lot of people buy one thinking that when a nice weekend comes along they'll just jump into it and roar off to the sunset. Invariably when the time comes they've got something else planned so they never go, never use it.

We plan ahead and will go usually regardless of the weather (snow and named storms excepted). We've got our year planned out ahead for the next year, we usually try to do one weekend a month Nov-Mar and more than twice a month Apr-Oct. CAMC and C&CC rallies/events are a good excuse to get out for a weekend.

Our motorhome is our main leisure activity (well, that and gardening). It gets used a lot.


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Quote: Originally posted by Monty15 on 31/1/2025
Do you want, quick getaways, short stays, moving on every other day or so 'touring', or do you want a 'fixed' base to explore an area from and stay for a week or two?

If you want to tour on short stays, then campers and MHs suit best. Campers are a bit basic (all too literally, a 'tin tent' in many respects), MHs have a bit of luxury about them.

Caravans and MH's are great as longer stay units, as all/most of the comforts of home. Downside of a MH is, if only transport, then there are loads of places that you really can't get such a large vehicle, such as car parks with height/width restrictions, narrow single track roads, steep winding hills etc., so bikes, buses, taxis etc. may be needed, or off site options may be restricted. Caravan gives you a solo tow car which is pretty unrestricted where you can get it. Of course, the restrictions are in proportion to the size of the MH, they vary from a panel van to a virtual truck, so that needs consideration.

Purchase and running costs may feature in your decision process. Campers and MHs are motor vehicles in their own right so attract quite high ownership and running costs, if used as an everyday vehicle then you suffer the high fuel consumption all the time and the annual fuel bill can be rather high! A caravan on the other hand only imposes high fuel consumption (expect mpg to roughly halve over solo car) when towing, and caravan can cost very little when unused.

Can't agree with George and Mildred, if you prep your caravan in advance (as you would need to do with a Camper or MH!), you can be away in 30 mins on you departure day, basically just removing security locks, hitching up, lights check etc., and I do that all on my own. My caravan's in storage away from home, and I can do that with no trouble. Ok, I've got a 45min journey to storage yard, but I'd probably have that with a MH too!

Caravans don't lend themselves to short stays and moving on every other day type touring particularly, but I've broken long journeys with an overnight stop on a camp site, it's doable, but a little bit less convenient than Camper/MH perhaps.

There are a number of Pros and Cons to each option, they are not simple straightforward alternatives, you need to think hard about potential use, purchase cost, running costs, limitations of vehicle type, level of comfort you require, not all on board facilities like toilet and shower which appear to give independence from site facilities are quite as user friendly, indeed even usable, as their mere presence would imply! Many on MHs and even some caravans are far too compact for comfortable/practical use!

When I moved up from a tent some 8 years back, I looked at every option, spent about a year looking at different options at shows and dealer forecourts, changing my mind quite a lot on what I thought I could live with and use in the way I wanted, ended up with a largish caravan, which most certainly was not on my options when I started out! Absolutely made the right decision, it's given me exactly the camping lifestyle I wanted, and I picked the perfect caravan for me first time. Time and effort of thinking about potential use and examining the options paid dividends.

If continental travel is your aim, ferry fares can be pretty steep for a caravan, but you offset that against ownership/running costs of the alternatives in working your overall budgeting - swings and roundabouts!



Well you look at our setup now we like quick getaways and move ability. Although we spent 2 weeks in Weymouth last year and I really liked the chilled out, not worrying where to go vibe. Before Weymouth we spent 2 days in Henley on thames. After Weymouth we had a day at Bridlington and two days at Scarborough.

I suppose we like both, long stays and short stays. We just feel like getting away now with a bit of luxury would boost the getaway experience instead of the being cramped.

I do agree with the caravan being ready to go shouldn't be too long to hitch up and go. We wouldn't be putting awnings up or alike. Still it's never going to be as get up and go like a MH.

Your quite right about the running costs. I'm not sure what the average mpg is of a MH. All in all they cost more. Although we would have to sell our seat mii which is £20 tax and about £250 insurance with Great mpg, for a pickup that is going to cost way more on all aspects.


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Quote: Originally posted by MrWez on 31/1/2025
We used to have a trailer tent, it gave us a lot of space but we came close to divorce everytime we put the thing up or took the thing down.

When the chance to move up to a caravan or a motorhome came up we went the motorhome route for the following reasons:

1. I HATE towing. I know how to tow, I consider myself quite good at it as I used to instruct it when I was in the RAF but I hate it. A caravan was out of the question.

2. A camper van was just too small, we had two teenagers, a boy and a girl and they needed their own personal space also we wanted to be able to camp off grid so needed an on-board kitchen, bathroom with loo and shower which wasn't an option in most of the campers we saw.

As an aside, a local dealer told us he gets so many couples coming in, already sold on the VW camper lifestyle regardless of the fact they've got 3 kids and 2 big dogs. He tries to persuade them a motorhome is better suited to their needs but they're so adamant the VW camper is the solution for them. A few months later they're back wanting to trade in for a motorhome, a cold, wet night squashed into the camper with the grumpy kids, wet dogs and no loo having persuaded them where he failed in the first place.


You need to ask yourself what type of camping you want to do. We tour usually spending a couple of nights before moving on. When we go to the continent we often stay just one night before moving on, we use aires and France Passion sites which are set up for motorhomes (they don't always have toilets/shower blocks - in fact most don't). When the kids came with us we had to go to one place and stay there (I hated it). I'm much happier with touring.

A motorhome is a big investment so you have to be prepared to use it. A lot of people buy one thinking that when a nice weekend comes along they'll just jump into it and roar off to the sunset. Invariably when the time comes they've got something else planned so they never go, never use it.

We plan ahead and will go usually regardless of the weather (snow and named storms excepted). We've got our year planned out ahead for the next year, we usually try to do one weekend a month Nov-Mar and more than twice a month Apr-Oct. CAMC and C&CC rallies/events are a good excuse to get out for a weekend.

Our motorhome is our main leisure activity (well, that and gardening). It gets used a lot.



I would say we definitely like touring. But If I find somewhere I like I'll happily stay 4/5 days to take it in and relax.
When we went over the Chanel we spent a night at Dover, night at Luxembourg, night at Strasbourg. Then 4 nights Lucerne, 4 nights cannobio, 4 nights lake Como, 2 nights Zermatt, 2 nights Interlaken. Then a couple nights going back up to Calais.

No chance of doing that with a caravan but also most of the places we stayed I don't think we would of got a decent size motorhome in either.
Between all of these places I looked for the most scenic windy routes possible.



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