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David Klyne

24/4/2018 at 9:23pm
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Quote: Originally posted by neil and lena on 24/4/2018
cannot see how your going to use aires if you go abroad without having problems as most just have a dumping point for toilet waste where you tip your cassette out and not drive over facilities except for grey water

Post last edited on 24/04/2018 21:02:29

Unfortunately you do see tell tell signs of drive over waste points being incorrectly used. The signs are toilet paper stuck to the grill!!!

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27/4/2018 at 9:46am
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There's loads of campers out there with black tanks.
We have both black & grey separate there are no cassettes they are just a tanks with vents & dump hose.
Ok can't say first hand the availability of the dump points in the UK, but it's pretty normal in europe.
As to breaking down the waste, use the same as you would in a cassette, we use the bio washing liquid or tabs, breaks down the 'lumps' we personally don't put paper down the loo but no reason why not.
Yours could be gravity dump or have a macerator ( liquidiser)
Black & Grey waste are commonly dumped together, you just need sewer access.

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03/5/2018 at 3:00am
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We had exactly the same problem with the Laika we bought 3 years ago.
We too have no cassette, only black tank. I think it was geared up originally for use on the continent.
Initially we wondered how we were going to manage as black waste disposal seemed very few and far between in this country.
We bought a separate tank to empty into and then dispose of in the usual way.
It is only gravity fed and we made the decision early on not to put paper down after reading how easy it was to get blocked! The only way of rinsing the tanks is via the toilet.
We do however use a special tank cleaning agent that we put in the empty tank before driving off so that it cleans it whilst we are on the move.
Other than that we use the usual toilet liquids and after our initial concerns we soon got used to it.
We don't even bother looking for black waste disposal any more as it is just easier to decant ourselves.

Don't let it put you off as it really isn't a problem so long as you get a tank with wheels!

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Having just got back from Germany the dump points in any of the camping sites or stellplatz I stayed in were definitely not for the toilet, neither was the place I overnight-ed in Holland.

Everywhere had distinct chemical disposal points from the hole in ground for grey waste.

One place did have big drive in bay for motorhomes, but still had sinks to pour your chemical waste down.

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My motorhome toilet system has a grey water tank and a blackwater tank. On the continent you frequently see the motorhome waste dump sign on roads. Most EU touring van sites have sewer drive-alongside dump sites, often in a different location to the cassette emptying site, so if you use a cassette you may not see the other drain type. The UK is way behind in providing dump sewers. As well as US motorhomes, many continental ones have fixed grey/black water tanks.

dk168

12/10/2022 at 10:26pm
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Many years ago when I was planning to take out a RV and tour America/Canada, I remember reading about grey tank and black tank in RVs, and the importance of opening the grey tank valve to flush its content into the black tank before dumping the content of the black tank.

I have yet to come across a camp site with a black waste hole in the ground since I start camping in 2007.

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dk168

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Quote: Originally posted by htom on 12/10/2022
The UK is way behind in providing dump sewers. As well as US motorhomes, many continental ones have fixed grey/black water tanks.

I prefer not to have a fixed black waste tank and have to drive over a sewer dumping point to empty it.

DK

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Quote: Originally posted by htom on 12/10/2022
The UK is way behind in providing dump sewers. As well as US motorhomes, many continental ones have fixed grey/black water tanks.

Don’t hold your breath waiting for UK sites to retrofit drive-over sewage disposal drains, there are other priorities for upgrading sites. The grey water drains that I’ve used have no “trap” to stop sewage smells coming back out (like the U bend with water in toilets at home) so they can’t just double up as black/grey.
Interesting that there’s another thread going on about CAMC upgrading sites by adding bike washes etc etc, and the increased site fees that result. CAMC has not installed a single drive over sewage disposal point.

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A point about Grey and Black tanks. You do not empty the grey water tank into the black water tank before discharging. You empty the Black tank completely then flush it through by discharging the grey water tank and out into the sewer drain.

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13/10/2022 at 2:52pm
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Quote: Originally posted by htom on 13/10/2022
A point about Grey and Black tanks. You do not empty the grey water tank into the black water tank before discharging. You empty the Black tank completely then flush it through by discharging the grey water tank and out into the sewer drain.

This might have been the instruction I was referring to, however, that was a long long time ago, so my memory might have failed me.

DK

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