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20/8/2007 at 5:22pm
Location: Surrey Outfit: Lunar Champ A531
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I'm also someone who gets niggled by people encroaching on our pitch. If they asked "mind if I leave my car there while we erect our tent/awning - will move it when we are done" then fine, go ahead, but if they just do it, then I get narked. In that case, I would bring out the wind breaks and up would go the baracades. Moat and drawbridge to go with it if needs be. Ok, so maybe I am an old whinger, but we have a 21ft motor home, and also frequently pay extra to take along our car. We put out our awning/safari/privacy room but with all that, still take up less room than a caravan with awning and car. If I have to pay extra to have a car on the pitch, when I am taking up less room than the caravan with huge awning and car on the next pitch, and they have paid less, then yes I do get ratty. I have to have my car on my pitch as I'm disabled and my scooter is stored in the car where it is insured. I can't walk to the car park so need to be able to park next to or in front of my motor home.
When we first started out, I wondered why people kept setting up wind breaks all around their 'plot', now I know why and aim to invest in some more long wind breaks to stop kids kicking balls near my motor home or riding their bikes through my pitch or shouting as they run past the door of the awning and causing my dog to bark. I've told my children to use the paths and NOT to go through anyone else's pitch. We are off this coming weekend and the first thing I will be doing is setting up the wind breaks to stop people coming so close.
Please or offend, I don't like having to tell the dog to shut up when we are all asleep and she is woken by someone walking by right outside our awning.
Sara
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21/8/2007 at 9:28am
Location: Isle of wight Outfit: Ford Transit CI 2.5 diesel
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When I first began to read this thread, I was sympathetic to the cause. But then, reading on, I found my opinion changing.
Perhaps you should look at this problem from another perspective.
If we were to be unfortunate enough to have been allocated a pitch next to some here, I would pack-up and go.
I really didn`t realise that some people require half an acre, and walls. Motorhome, awning, wind break, barbecue, plus I suspect bicycles, and other carp. (canoe, badminton court?) My pitch...,I understand there are no official bounbaries.
If you are annoyed with "pitch wars" and need privacy, go wild.
Oh the inconvenience! I think you deserve what you get. You`d be better off going to Butlins.
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21/8/2007 at 10:22am
Location: Scotland. Outfit: Conway Camargue Lots of Vangos. .
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I don`t use windbreaks.
But I do get a bit peed off when I arrive on my well marked out pitch (big white lines on the grass) and find the neighbours tent pitched so that there was at least three feet of their side pod on my pitch. The pitches were pretty narrow (5m) and they had a 12-man dome and the pitch on their other side was crammed...so they didn`t have anywhere else to go but over the boundery line.
Now...I could have marched back to reception and demanded another pitch (they were full) or demanded that they get the neighbours to take down part of their tent. After due consideration though I decided not to bother, because where would have the neighbours have gone? No-where else TO go...no other pitches, no other campsites for thirty miles. And I`d brought my narrow Oregon 600, so there was in fact space for us, our table and chairs plus their pod. Just. Anyhow, we were just using the campsite as a B&B, so their need for space was greater than ours.
Did I get any thanks for this though? No I did not. They ignored us and we ignored them. Their children kept on running round their tent though...ie onto our pitch...untill I parked the car neatly between two sets of their guylines to block the route.
Difficult one though...I`d have been well within my rights demanding to the warden they take their tent down, and I might have had to if I`d taken a bigger tent. (No guidelines as to either pitch size or tent size on website.) If it came to a straight fight between my tent and their`s, they would have lost, belive me. But I settled for some mild inconvenience and let them have their weekend...after all, they had kids and I`d have hated to spoil their weekend just because of me insisting on getting something I didn`t really need . It would have been nice if they`d come round to say thanks though.
(I did get a mild revenge though...part of their footprint groundsheet was sticking out under the encroaching pod and it was raining pretty hard that weekend so there was a fair bit of water being channelled underneath. Normally I`d have mentioned it...but somehow, I didn`t. Bad Val! There went any good camping karma points for that weekend!)
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29/8/2007 at 9:26am
Location: Surrey Outfit: Lunar Champ A531
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I can see your point Sooh, but when you have saved long and hard to be able to afford even just a few days away, I think you are entitled to get what you have paid for. I've been on sites before where there was a 'pitch invasion' from a tent on the neighbouring pitch, who's guylines were over the boundaries. The people who's pitch was encroached upon had a disabled guy with them who was wheelchair bound. The warden made them move their car to the car park because it was not within the boundary of their pitch. Had the neighbour's tent guy lines not been on their pitch, they could have got the car in. They pointed this out but the warden said that they had to peg their tent down somehow (no mention was made of the trailer, car, pup tent, swingball, bikes and other paraphanalia that was filling the tenters pitch. The disabled guy's wife had to walk down and bring the car up each time they wanted to go out, and drop him off then go and take the car to the car park then come back. It was all so totally unfair. If I had paid for a pitch, (paid £200 for one this past BH weekend), I certainly wouldn't be prepared to pack up and move on because of someone else being inconsiderate and ignorant. There would be no garantee of getting a pitch elsewhere at such short notice, and probably no chance of a refund either. Besides, who wants to be driving around trying to find somewhere else when you have already booked a pitch weeks in advance. Fine if whatever is on your pitch is not giving you a problem, but in the instance mentioned above, it clearly was, and spoilt that couples enjoyment.
I would personally never encroach onto someone else's pitch, they have paid for theirs as much as I have paid for mine. It's just bad manners and ignorance to simply take things for granted like that.
If someone was having difficulty with lack of space and they asked, then so long as it wasn't causing us a problem, then I would be fine about allowing guy lines etc be pegged over the boundary, but would warn them of when we were going as the next person may not be so happy to allow it.
In the majority of cases, I think it is the park's fault for having pitches that are really too small or crammed together. We went to Littlesea this past weekend, and some pitches really did seem crammed in with caravan, awning, car and a couple of chairs. The only ones who wern't were those with no awning or other extras.
Good luck with your new motor home!
Sara
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30/8/2007 at 4:18pm
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No apology needed Sooh
On the whole, we haven't had that much trouble ourselves. We were given a pitch once where the caravan on the next pitch was obviously seasonal, as the grass had grown up round it. The back corner of their van was on our pitch meaning that if we'd wanted to put our awning out, we couldn't and would not have got out of the door. The owner of the van wasn't there while we were, so we couldn't have done anything anyway, other than ask to move, but we were only there a couple of nights, so just left it and didn't use the awning.
The past two times we have been away, we have seen plenty of pitch encroachment, with guy lines, cars and even a folding caravan parked on neighbouring pitches.
I think pitch hoggers are in the minority, and most people are friendly and careful to stay within their own boundaries. I know I wouldn't want anyone coming to me saying I'd parked too close or my car was on their pitch or something similar, so I make hubby move the van a bit if it looks like we are going to be too close.
Hope your first trip is pitch hog free
Sara
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