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22/8/2009 at 3:03pm
 Location: France
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Have recently bought a 2001 Burstner t603 in France (I know I should ask them, but it's easier to ask in English!)

Delighted with it, but it has strange cigar-lighter sockets in the body of the van. They are slimmer than the usual and my standard plugs won't fit. There is a standard socket in the dashboard, but the TV cupboard has this slim thing.

I'm considering buying a flat-screen tv with a 12-volt input in an ordinary shop (the dealers seem to double the prices) and I hoped to use the cigar-lighter - I cannot find slim plugs on sale in either UK or France.

Is this a European thing? I'd be glad of some advice.

Further to the TV installation, am I right in assuming the cigar-lighter socket is the one to use even when hooked up to the mains (or is this what I have to pay dealer prices for?)

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K

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22/8/2009 at 3:46pm
 Location: Yorkshire
 Outfit: Nissan D21 pickup dismountable body
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I think I know the type - Scania trucks had them years ago but I never had anything to fit them.

Just had a quick google - they may be known as 12v din sockets Have a look here
http://www.outdoorgb.com/c/12v_plugs_sockets_connectors/

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22/8/2009 at 3:53pm
 Location: Yorkshire
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Forgot to say - if you buy any 12v TV with an external mains power supply thingy then yes you should be able to run it from the 12v socket - might have to make your own lead up tho'

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22/8/2009 at 4:09pm
 Location: France
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Thanks very much that link should get me all I need, and more! It's strange but when I googled I got nowhere useful like that and decided to ask here instead.

Thanks about TV info - I think I can cobble a lead up. I'm now deep in the maths of guessing if my solar panel is up to it (sigh!)

Roll on next week when we're off to the coast to see what the Channel Islands look like.

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22/8/2009 at 5:24pm
 Location: Yorkshire
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Well . . . when I said quick google, I did have to "experiment" a bit.

can't help with the solar panel - I'm from Yorkshire, never had anything that posh ha-ha

Enjoy your trip to the coast - take care

Mart

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22/8/2009 at 5:45pm
 Location: Blackburn Lancashire
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I last saw those plugs for sale at Poplar 2000 truck stop at Lymm on the M6.  They had buckets full of them.  That was some time ago, but might be worth a call.  They were taken over some time ago, and are now called Moto.  Sorry I don't have a phone number.

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22/8/2009 at 6:27pm
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We just called them Hella plugs, made by Hella & last time I looked(several yrs ago)available as stated, in truck stops & motorway services, which could be your best bet.


22/8/2009 at 8:04pm
 Location: Ipswich
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Quote: Originally posted by Kabbes on 22/8/2009We just called them Hella plugs, made by Hella & last time I looked(several yrs ago)available as stated, in truck stops & motorway services, which could be your best bet.

Same here used to buy them as a plug and socket but used to throw the socket away as they were built into the truck I remember Lymm used to have a bucket full of sockets that you could help yourself too
You could try
This One as it allows you to use the plug with an ordinary cig socketand the Hella one HTH Steve B


22/8/2009 at 8:29pm
 Location: Liverpool
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You can also look at www.maplins.co.uk,    they do those plugs, i bought one for my daughter in law, vw.t25, control unit has one of them.17

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23/8/2009 at 9:17am
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Maplin do adapters that let you plug the normal 12v plug into these.


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23/8/2009 at 9:41am
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Just change the socket for one that is useful save a lot of messing about.


23/8/2009 at 11:55am
 Location: France
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Thank you for all replies. Plenty of leads ;-) to track down!

Spartan, you're probably right - easiest overall solution.

My main worry was that these sockets provided a lower limited power supply (like old mains plugs for lighting).
As none has yet offered that as a warning, I'm guessing that was not the reason for them. It seems weird that they are fitted in a 2001-built van.

My local Maplins looked blankly at me when I spoke of slim cigar-lighter sockets - maybe that's their age. I can certainly see plenty on the sites offered above.

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23/8/2009 at 5:57pm
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I have one on the outside of my camper, i saw them for sale in my local caravan shop. martins of exeter. hope that helps

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24/8/2009 at 6:37am
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The 12 v circuit is usually controlled by a 10 amp fuse  (red) all you need to do is remove the fuse for the 12v system and see if the sockets still live.

That will show you whether the socket is for lower current the fuse will be lower rated.

You can replace in the panel with a 12v square socket similar to mains socket but with the two offset pins.It is decorative and will hide the hole the socket comes out of, it will be flush mounted no need for a back box. unless you can get the the other side of the panel and secure the socket with the box on the other side of the wood.

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