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24/3/2010 at 1:41pm
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I am in the process of researching motorhomes having had tents, folding camper, Toyota caravanette and currently a caravan.

I have never taken any of the above abroad but will very soon hopefully have the time and think that a motorhome would be the way forward.

What is the magic(in the words of some) of being able to stay under 6 metres in length and under 3500kg plate weight? How much difference would it make to me when going continental.



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24/3/2010 at 3:07pm
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The weight aspect means that pretty much anyone can drive it.

The driving licence rules changed in 1997 so that you no longer can drive upto 7.5t without an extra test.

6m I think gives you slightly cheaper rates on ferries.

I am using the tunnel again this year who only have 1 rate called "campervan" for any size/style motorhome.

When researching I saw the Chausson Flash S3 came in at 5.99m, adding a bike rack would take it over though as the ferry companies like P&O, Seafrance etc ask the length and height to include roof boxes and bike racks.


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24/3/2010 at 3:29pm
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Thanks for the reply. I am aware of the licence restrictions which don't affect either of us as tests were passed more years ago than I dare think about.

I seem to remember reading something somewhere about certain countries treating you as an HGV if you were over 3500kgs which made a big difference on things like toll roads and restricted access to other places and roads.

As far as length goes is it worth making getting a van under 6 metres a priority for the differences in ferry prices of which I have not got a clue. I have seen adverts from manufacturers stating "AND ALL THIS IN UNDER 6 METRES".



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24/3/2010 at 6:50pm
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It depends on the ferry you use. Norfolkline charge just for 'car/motorhome over 2.4mtres' P&O dov/cal just ask for length/height & charge accordingly. Most ferries now charge by length. Yrs ago ferries use to charge extra any vehicle over 6mtres but the charges are more specific now.

Eurotunnel just charges for 'campervan' without asking size. I think under or over 6mtres makes very little difference for ferry travel now, UK-France anyway, prices are cheaper than they have ever been & provided you book early in the year for your summer travel you won't be paying a huge amount.


24/3/2010 at 8:35pm
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It looks as if I have been reading some out of date stuff and listening to some dealers that should have been put out to grass. So I will not pay much more attention to the length of the motorhome as long as we both feel comfotable controlling it.

That however still leaves the weight problem under 3500 or not, what are the pros and cons?

Thanks in advance folks even if my wife always says that I research things to death.



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26/3/2010 at 7:25am
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If you are planning on using the Aires in France it is unusual for the bays to be able to accommodate more than a 7m vehicle.

This then begs the question if one has a tag axle/twin rear wheeler - should you occupy two bays (in length)

I have noticed, and it is also pointed out in the book "All the Aires-France by Vicarious Publications" that it is unusual for a Continental van to be more than 7m in length.

As "Blongs" pointed out, the rules were changed in 1997. If you took your test prior to that date then you should be able to drive a vehicle over 3.5T and not exceeding 7.5T. This will keep you well within the limit for everything except some of the very large American or German vehicles



26/3/2010 at 3:29pm
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Hi Ken

Cant really help you but if its ok on here to suggest another website try motorhomefun you will get loads of info from the guys on there.

 

Gerry



27/3/2010 at 9:28am
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Going onwhat else I have found out it seems that it would not make so much difference on the ferries to worry about lengthwise.

As far as the weight goes I think I was getting confused between weight and having a tag axle. I think having a tag axle causes problems on some toll roads in some countries where you are treated as an HGV.

Thanks for the input folks.



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02/4/2010 at 10:20am
 Location: Isle of Wight
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We changed up from a motorhome just under 6 metres last year to 6.3 metres.  So far it hasn't been a problem and the advantage of extra living space far outweighs the disadvantage of higher ferry fares.  You can find out by going through the process of booking ferries online on various routes, entering various lengths and see what the quotes come out at.  Being under 7 metres, we can still go on Brittany Ferries fast service, but only just, with the bikes on the back.  I think you'll find that going over 3500 k weight would restrict you in other ways as well as going on ferries.  In most countries there are different motoring regulations for vehicles over 3500 K.  



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04/4/2010 at 9:06pm
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Loads of vans on the continent are over 6 metres.It's a distinct advantage to be able to drive over 3500k as so many owners drive overweight. Ferries usually go by length & height, some on-line bookin only go up to 6.5m however all take booking over the phone except the fast ones.The main advantage of the small 6m is the ability to park it easily, usually you can get into car-parks with no height restrictions, somthing that we find can be awkward at 7.5 meters



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