Home

   Log in or Register



Insurance Quotes
forums Campsite Search Comp Directory tips virtual brochure Profile
Tent and Awning Reviews Competitions Caravans and Motorhomes For Sale Shopping Diary Advent Calendar

Advertisement

Message Forums

Welcome Guest Register Login Search The Forum Posts Since Last Visit
 Reception - All Forums
  Motorhomes and Campervans
Share   Post on X / Twitter  Share on Facebook  Email  Printer Friendly Version Print
Subject Topic: FLAT BATTERY Post Reply Post New Topic
27/3/2011 at 9:25pm
 Location: 
 Outfit: 
View TREVCHRIZY's Profile View Profile   Reply to TREVCHRIZY Reply   Quote TREVCHRIZY Quote  
Joined: 13/2/2010

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   21

Site Reviews Total: 10
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

HI,
I have a ducato (diesel) motor home, bessacarre e560
I confess, I didnt start my motor home in the last 4-5 weeks and the battery completely drained.
I have been advised by a mechanic that jump starting can damage a lot of the electrical components (although there are jump starting points) etc.........
If I disconnect battery the radio and more worrying the security device will need recoding, so Im little confused as what my next move should me.
Anyone had experience in this dilemma!
Regards TrevChrizy   


27/3/2011 at 10:23pm
 Location: 
 Outfit: 
View Opensauce's Profile View Profile   Reply to Opensauce Reply   Quote Opensauce Quote  
Joined: 25/1/2010

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   4530

Site Reviews Total: 13
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

If you are within reach of an electrical point then charge battery on slow charge over night. If the battery is completely dead things could already need decoding. The mechanic is just covering himself, jump starting does require care & done incorrectly can cause damage.

If you have breakdown insurance with home start coverage, call them out.


Campervan and Motorhome Insurance - Special Discount for UKCampsite.co.uk members
Caravan Guard Special Discount for UKCampsite.co.uk members on Campervan and Motorhome Insurance. Get 5 star rated cover and big savings - for a quote simply click Online Quotation

27/3/2011 at 11:33pm
 Location: Liverpool
 Outfit: IH TIO R
View wineciccio's Profile View Profile   Reply to wineciccio Reply   Quote wineciccio Quote  
Joined: 23/10/2007

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   1989

Site Reviews Total: 1
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

On the other hand, find out if your cigar lighter is live, my pug is live only with the ignition on doohhh, thanks peugeot!  if yours is live then you can hook up a 9 volt PP3 battery to your cigar lighter, that will keep things going re, alarm/immobiliser  etc. or even better borrow another 12 volt car battery and hook that up to the terminals of the engine battery as you are taking it off, i hope i'm making sense here.  

-------------
wineciccio


28/3/2011 at 1:02pm
 Location: Ilkla moor baht' at
 Outfit: Compass castaway 500 LL
View silverwood's Profile View Profile   Reply to silverwood Reply   Quote silverwood Quote  
Joined: 11/4/2007

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   1693

Site Reviews Total: 11
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Well if it was sat on my driveway i'd pull the bonnet, connect a battery charger to it,without removing any leads, plug it in leave for an hour, disconnect the charger then fire it up. If you ain't got a charger jump lead it off

TIP..... as your battery is dead flat, once you connect the jump leads run donor car at 2500 rpm for 5 mins to put some charge into yours before you attempt to start it

mick


28/3/2011 at 4:05pm
 Location: Sunny Kent
 Outfit: SWIFT Lifestyle 696 aka THE BOT
View PERRY 71's Profile View Profile   Reply to PERRY 71 Reply   Quote PERRY 71 Quote  
Joined: 28/2/2011

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   37

Site Reviews Total: 4
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

I had same prob AA man came out and started it he also suggested that I get Solar Panel to connect to battery to keep a trickle charge going. I got one from Maplins only cost £9.99 as it was on offer. This has done the job.

-------------
English and Proud
Keep the motor homes rolling


Advertisement



28/3/2011 at 11:01pm
 Location: 
 Outfit: 
View TREVCHRIZY's Profile View Profile   Reply to TREVCHRIZY Reply   Quote TREVCHRIZY Quote  
Joined: 13/2/2010

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   21

Site Reviews Total: 10
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Reading all your comments with interest, some ideas I shall certainly look at.
As a precaution I got the break down out ( years ago with the old vans I had, I would not have been so hesitant to try whatever)and got it started, the charger he used had a surge protector in it.
Tomorrow it goes to the local fiat garage (MOT) so a few questions to ask....!
I believed in my stupidity that the on board charger (rigged up to the leasure battery, any additional charge would be fed into the cab battery) charged both batteries.
Thanks for your advice
TrevChrizy


29/3/2011 at 11:27am
 Location: Ilkla moor baht' at
 Outfit: Compass castaway 500 LL
View silverwood's Profile View Profile   Reply to silverwood Reply   Quote silverwood Quote  
Joined: 11/4/2007

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   1693

Site Reviews Total: 11
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Your answer is no it doesn't

mick


29/3/2011 at 10:59pm
 Location: 
 Outfit: 
View TREVCHRIZY's Profile View Profile   Reply to TREVCHRIZY Reply   Quote TREVCHRIZY Quote  
Joined: 13/2/2010

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   21

Site Reviews Total: 10
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Hi,
I have heard that by disconnecting the neutral lead to the battery and connecting a charger to the battery terminals is a way to charge the battery without loosing power to the electric components, has anyone any feedback on this, would be appreciated
TrevChrizy


30/3/2011 at 8:36am
 Location: south wales cardiff
 Outfit: vauxhall arena lwb
View delboydriver's Profile View Profile   Reply to delboydriver Reply   Quote delboydriver Quote  
Joined: 30/4/2007

Platinum Member
Platinum Member

Forum Posts:   962

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

What a load of crap if you disconnect the earth lead you have broken the circuit .

Then you will moost definatley lose all radio codes etc dont know what all the fuss is about Mick silverwood gave the best answer a simple old fashioned way to jumpstart or charge .

Get a bit of life into the battery and change if neccessary, you can buy a module to fit into your cig lighter that will keep enough poweer to retain code memories etc .

Delboy



-------------
you may be frustrated now but infront of me there is a big incline . yeh it may be slow but it is in front


30/3/2011 at 11:30am
 Location: Ilkla moor baht' at
 Outfit: Compass castaway 500 LL
View silverwood's Profile View Profile   Reply to silverwood Reply   Quote silverwood Quote  
Joined: 11/4/2007

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   1693

Site Reviews Total: 11
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Nicely put Delboy, folk don't half like to find problems that don't exist

mick


Advertisement



30/3/2011 at 1:03pm
 Location: Shropshire
 Outfit: Toyota Granvia (Wellhouse)
View pepe63's Profile View Profile   Reply to pepe63 Reply   Quote pepe63 Quote  
Joined: 30/9/2007

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   3872

Site Reviews Total: 19
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Well,I don't think Delboy's respones was that "nicely" put..

(..no matter how correct it was...  )

TrevChrizy..it may be worth just checking to see if your charger is supposed to sort both batteries out and that something hasn't just failed..maybe...

I know that our onboard charger both batteries but the bulk of charge goes to the leisure first.

(..although on our previous Compass it only charged the leisure battery..)



30/3/2011 at 2:57pm
 Location: croydon
 Outfit: sundance 590rs
View northengit's Profile View Profile   Reply to northengit Reply   Quote northengit Quote  
Joined: 09/4/2008

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   15

Site Reviews Total: 2
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Dont know how old your van is , but I had to check and recharge my batterys cab and leisure a couple of weeks ago on my swift' ducato base... I just made sure everything radio/display panel was switched "off"  and dissconected and removed the two batterys checked the fluid levels and then charged them out of van.(cause on power supply where stored).

Reinstalled a day or two later no codes lost or any faults,  "silly question" but have you not got the radio code written down in the handbook somwhere ??   

Either way if you do manage a jump start, I'd still top the levels up and give both batterys a good charge "off " the vehicle to ensure you get them back to full capacity.



01/4/2011 at 10:27am
 Location: None Entered
 Outfit: None Entered
View navman28's Profile View Profile   Reply to navman28 Reply   Quote navman28 Quote  
Joined: 13/3/2011

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   11

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

On my 2002 Bessacarr E415 if I was hooked up to the mains the on board battery would charge if the panel switch was on Cab position, if I forgot and left it switched to interior battery the alarm would flastten the cab battery within a few weeks.

Just changed to a new Elddis and the on board charger only charges the interior battery (common on newer vans). If you have a mains hookup you can buy charger/conditioners that connect via the cigarette lighter socket to keep everything topped up.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ctek-CTE-XS3600-Battery-Charger-Function/dp/B000RHWCNY

cheers

Dave



01/4/2011 at 8:50pm
 Location: 
 Outfit: 
View TREVCHRIZY's Profile View Profile   Reply to TREVCHRIZY Reply   Quote TREVCHRIZY Quote  
Joined: 13/2/2010

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   21

Site Reviews Total: 10
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Thanks to Parry 71,
got myself a solar panel and having a look at a charger/conditioner,
regards to wineciccio and Dave for those suggestions,
trevchrizy


01/4/2011 at 11:23pm
 Location: Liverpool
 Outfit: IH TIO R
View wineciccio's Profile View Profile   Reply to wineciccio Reply   Quote wineciccio Quote  
Joined: 23/10/2007

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   1989

Site Reviews Total: 1
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

I don't know why some folks keep on re, put a charger in the cigar lighter socket, on newer vehicles that is as dead as a dodo until you put the ignition on, therefore forget that, if you are able/competent enough wire the battery so you have the terminals inside the camper into  a female cigar lighter socket (buy one from maplins ) and then you can charge the battery any time you wish from a either mains or solar panel.

-------------
wineciccio



In order to post a reply you will need to register, or if already registered please log in here

Prev       Next
Quick Links - All Forums - Motorhomes and Campervans - Top of Page

Printer Friendly Version Printable version      Share   Post on X / Twitter  Share on Facebook  Email


Latest News, Discounts and Competitions  see all...














10952 Visitors online !

Free UKCampsite.co.uk Window Sticker  -  Recommend to Friend  -  Add a Missing Campsite

[Message Forums]  [Caravan Sites & Camping]  [Company Listings]  [Features / Advice]  [Virtual Brochure]  [Shop!]
[Reception]  [Competitions]  [Caravans & Motorhomes For Sale]  [Event Diary]  [Contact Us]  [Tent Reviews



Please note we are not responsible for the content of external sites & any reviews represent the author's personal view only. Please report any error here. You may view our privacy and cookie policy and terms and conditions here. All copyrights & other intellectual property rights in the design and content of this web site are reserved to the UKCampsite.co.uk © 1999 - 2024


Advertisement


Advertisement


UKCampsite.co.uk
2024 Advent Calendar


Advent Calendar

24 Daily Prizes PLUS a Christmas Day Star Prize worth £999

Request a Reminder