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Personbobbymax
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Circumstances meant I have been unable to be around to turn over the engine recently and the starter battery on my Peugeot Boxer Homecar has died on me.
I intend getting a new battery installed before the season starts again as it has given us six years good service but I'm no electrician and have read conflicting opinions on the wisdom or otherwise of jump starting motorhomes. Have got my hands on a Clarke Jump Start 1000, however, so is there a definitive answer as to whether I can safely use it? (No patronising please)


PersonRatty
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Hiya, is it one of teh these Clark Jump Starts you have got?

Cheers Ratty

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PersonCapt Lightning
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The manual for the Peugeot Boxer shows the connection points for jump starting it, so I assume that it's OK - though only as an emergency.

You should be OK to get you to a garage.

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Personbobbymax
18/1/2019 at 11:36am
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This one
https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/clarke-jumpstart-1000/


Personmarg6
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why not just simply disconnect the battery and charge it via a smart charger in your garage? there is no need to make things harder than they need be


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Personbobbymax
18/1/2019 at 1:11pm
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It's getting the battery out that's one of the problems. I really am not confident trying to disconnect relays, etc from the positive terminal and physically lifting the battery out of the cramped holding space under the cab floor will also be difficult.


PersonCapt Lightning
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The main problem with changing the battery is that it's heavy to lift out and back in. Disconnecting and reconnecting is no problem although I was advised to make the connections quickly and accurately to avoid any arcing which might upset the ECU.

Since you disconnect the negative first and reconnect it last, you can take your time with the positive connections.   You may have to reenter the radio code, reset the clock etc..

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Personmarg6
18/1/2019 at 4:29pm
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Quote: Originally posted by bobbymax on 18/1/2019
It's getting the battery out that's one of the problems. I really am not confident trying to disconnect relays, etc from the positive terminal and physically lifting the battery out of the cramped holding space under the cab floor will also be difficult.




good grief! im a short woman, I drive a 4x4 and the battery goes flat regularly, I have to lift the battery above my shouldn't height each time, to take into the garage to charge it, what relays? you have 2 posts on your battery a positive and a negative, undo the bolt that holds the cables onto each post, then undo the battery clamp that stops the battery falling out the engine bay and then heave the bugger out!


failing all that just run an extention lead out to the battery and connect the charger up and leave to recharge as long as you can!


now if me as a woman can do all of that im sure as anything you can manage it?


Personbobbymax
18/1/2019 at 5:45pm
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Good for you! Unfortunately, I'm a tall man who has a left knee that is so shot I can hardly bend it. Hence the difficulty in removing the battery myself. And not even I am daft enough to put a battery on charge when it's still in the vehicle. You shouldn't make presumptions!


Personmarg6
18/1/2019 at 6:15pm
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" not even I am daft enough to put a battery on charge when it's still in the vehicle" why on earth not? what do you think your alternator is doing? and who is making presumptions? did I mention that I have several health conditions myself? no, but yes I do, but hey if I want to use the car then needs must as they say! surely to god you have someone, a neighbour? a teenager? old lady like me ? that could help you


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Personrichardandjo2010
18/1/2019 at 7:59pm
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If yours is the same as my Citroen van it probably is. Then lift the bonnet towards the back there is a metal tab with the earth symbol on it a little further down is a black plastic box which has a cover on it. If you lift the cover attach positive clamp of your charger and connect negative clamp to the metal tab you can charge the battery safely without removal or disconnection.

Just so marg knows the battery is in the floor on these vans and they are large and heavy and not easy to remove I know this from experience and I would like to think I have no disability and I an quite strong, also if his van is newish like mine then disconnecting can interrupt the radio codes etc

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Well put Marg6. If the Boxer has the battery under the floor, then it should have connection points under the bonnet for jump start or charging. You don't have to go near the battery.

There might be a fuse panel that connects directly to the +ve battery terminal. There is on my Citroen Relay, but it has a quick release clamp.



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Personmarg6
18/1/2019 at 8:06pm
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Quote: Originally posted by richardandjo2010 on 18/1/2019
If yours is the same as my Citroen van it probably is. Then lift the bonnet towards the back there is a metal tab with the earth symbol on it a little further down is a black plastic box which has a cover on it. If you lift the cover attach positive clamp of your charger and connect negative clamp to the metal tab you can charge the battery safely without removal or disconnection.

Just so marg knows the battery is in the floor on these vans and they are large and heavy and not easy to remove I know this from experience and I would like to think I have no disability and I an quite strong, also if his van is newish like mine then disconnecting can interrupt the radio codes etc



large and heavy! have you tried lifting a 4x4 battery to above shoulder height lately? well I did that twice yesterday because due to the cold my blooming battery had gone flat yet again! twice in one day! 30kgs of blooming battery


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As long as you use the terminals under the bonnet designed for jump starting it should be ok however the jump start may not have enough power to start your van
connect it up switch it on an leave it on for a wee while and the jump start will push power into the automotive battery it may then start
However i would prefer to use a running vehicle iff possible as there would be more power available

It is safe to connect a trickle charger to a fitted vehicle battery some trickle chargers come with leads that can be permanantly fitted to the battery with a quick connector for attatching the charger these are used by a lot on motorcycles that are used for a limited season to keep the battery in condition during the colder months

If i plug in my camper via the electric hook up the onboard charger will charge the leisure battery and the automotive battery

If the onboard charger does not charge automotive battery if the vehicle was plugged into mains a mains socket in the habitation area could be used to power a tricke or starter charger

Brian


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23/1/2019 at 10:44am
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Thanks for the various replies, some more helpful than others. The electric hook-up does charge the leisure battery and normally the auto battery but circumstances have conspired against me this winter with regard to what I have been able to do in terms of maintenance.



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