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Subject Topic: Motorhome...or stay in b&bs/sc?! Post Reply Post New Topic
09/9/2022 at 7:02pm
 Location: midlands
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So, after a break from camping (kids left home, sold tent, sold folding camper) we are now thinking...or rather wondering..if a motorhome is the way to go. Husband is against a caravan (towing, storing etc) but we've looked at motorhomes and some do appeal. We wouldn't have a large one but I want a motorhome as opposed to a camper type van as I want a toilet (not one I pull out from under a bed!) and a shower. We can store it on our drive but I feel would have to lose one of our two cars as wouldn't want to insure 3 vehicles.

Hubby has warmed to it after talking to a few owners who use it for short breaks etc. We like walking and exploring and have a little dog. His arguement was we could always stop over at a pub etc...but so far, since he stopped work and I cut down drastically , we still haven't done that!

So...any thoughts...any regrets...on buying a motorhome?


via mobile 09/9/2022 at 8:49pm
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Go for it.
With Britstops you can have a meal at a restaurant & stay outside afterwards for free.
We have had a MH since 2002 (after tenting since for ever); no regrets. Traded in the 93 reg (bought 2002) for an 18 reg, still under 6m because of the CalMac ferry fare structure. We use it mostly for short breaks, we have other commitments that prevent us taking 90 days in Europe. There�s nothing like it for lowering stress, relaxation, exploring.
You have to get up at x o’clock for B&B breakfast - get up when you like in a MH. The B&B breakfast is never as good as your own.

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09/9/2022 at 10:54pm
 Location: Devizes Wiltshire
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I'd say go for it!

I am near the end of my PVC's second season with one more planned trip in October, and have no regrets, except perhaps when I wanted to take the van out of a site to go somewhere and had to tidy up etc. before I could move the van as I am not a tidy person.

I do not wish to tow and decided to get a MH. I went to shows and checked out as many MHs as I could and was not able to find one that suited my needs and wants.

So I went down the custom conversion route, and now I have a MWB VW Crafter kitted out to my own design and specifications with her own onboard facilities.

Much nicer than staying in B&B and self-catering accommodation I'd say, as I found them kind of soulless.

Personal preferences and all that.

DK

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10/9/2022 at 7:58am
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I've always had a motorhome or a campervan, and even medium sized PVC's do have full washrooms just like motorhomes. Since retiring we've only needed one car as well as our camper, and this is useful when it comes to insurance. Mrs L owns the car with me as a named driver and I own the van with her as a named driver.

Our lifestyle doesn't allow for long continental trips and with the obscene cost of both fuel and ferry crossings, we rarely take the van abroad. It's mainly used for UK trips.
For the same price as using the van, we can fly from our local airport and stay in an apartment or modest hotel. We then use public transport to explore the local area.

In fact, we've just got our bags packed and will be off to the Netherlands soon.

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10/9/2022 at 8:09am
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I have had caravans/motorhomes/campervans/folding campers and tents but have now decided that self catering suits me far better and cheaper.
The other aspect is that if you mainly use a diesel campervan/motorhome for your normal daily short trips you then can have problems with DPF filters clogging which can be very expensive, been there done that!
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10/9/2022 at 7:44pm
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Definitely horses for courses. It very much depends what you want to do. For touring, staying in each place for just one or two nights, I'm sure you can't beat a motorhome. Our first married-life holiday was spent touring Norfolk, Suffolk, Essex, and Kent in a campervan borrowed from a friend. A Bedford Dormobile to be precise, and we loved it. However we couldn't afford one of our own so we bought a tent and had some great times with that. Then kids came along and a caravan was more convenient.

When we stopped going abroad and gave up our river-boating, we looked at motorhomes. Apart from the price, which ruled it out anyway, we realised there were other snags. These days we tend to go to one place and stay there for a week or two, and for that a motorhome is not ideal. What do use to go shopping or exploring? If there is no nearby public transport you are stuck. A motorhome has to be packed properly before you move off, and isn't exactly ideal for parking in town or even in a supermarket car park. I am the only driver, and we can only afford to run one vehicle, specially now with the fuel costs, so it's a car and caravan for us without a doubt. It just ticks all the boxes.

We have rented static caravans, and also done B&Bs and Travelodges. It just depends what we want to do at the time. Mostly though it's our caravan. I'm not in the least bothered by towing though as I have done it for a living before now. If money was no object we would have a 5th-wheeler, but that just isn't going to happen.


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12/9/2022 at 6:15am
 Location: Wessex
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As Colin 21 says, it's definitely horses for courses.

We went down the MH route after being tenters, thanks to an inheritance we had the opportunity to move on from that, we've never looked back. A caravan never appealed because I don't like towing, I was taught how to do it properly and even became a towing instructor, I was/am quite good at it, I just don't enjoy it and if you're not enjoying it, what's the point?

To address a couple of points made here, many medium sized PVCs don't have full washrooms, I have many friends who have such vans and they require a site to have loo/shower blocks as an alternative.

The cost of fuel in the continent is often less than the UK, it's still obscene but that's the current level, but generally, it's cheaper than here. Getting there is another matter, many people use Tesco vouchers to offset the cost of the Channel Tunnel, of course getting there will still cost you.

MHing requires a different mindset than caravanning, we rarely stay anywhere for more than 2/3 days, we chose places with public transport links or are located within walkable/cyclable distance of things to see and do. I've not had a problem parking in supermarket car-parks, usually I park furthest away from the store but parking in these places is another thing which is easier on the continent.

With regards to choosing your ideal MH, don't rush, go to as many dealers and shows as possible to check out the layouts. Lie on the beds, how easy are they to get in and out of - especially in the middle of the night? The washroom you want, is it fully lined, how much room is there in the shower and to dry yourself? Cooking space, does it come with an oven (a few don't)? Just getting around, will you be in each others way? Can you fit it where you want to keep it e.g. on your drive? I WOULD NOT HOWEVER, recommend buying from a show.

The warranty for the motorhome conversion rests with the dealer you bought it from, if you get snags with it, you need to return it to that dealer to get them fixed. Whilst you can get some great deals at shows, the downside is that you could be making some pretty long round trips to get things fixed, this happened to a colleague of mine, he lived in Gloucestershire but had to travel to North Yorkshire to get things fixed under warranty, suddenly, that great deal he got at a show wasn't so great! For this reason, I'm a great advocate of buying locally, fortunately, we have a number of dealers local to us (within 30 miles), so we have a good deal of choice.

Finally, don't buy a MH thinking you'll use it if a nice weekend comes along, you won't. Invariably, when that nice weekend comes along you'll have something else planned and the MH will stay on the drive! We plan trips away and go on them come rain or shine, we've only ever cancelled one trip because of the weather but that was the weekend of a winter storm with 70mph winds so perhaps we can be forgiven.

Hopefully, this will give you food for thought?

We enjoy motorhoming and get away as often as we can, we also managed to get back to France for the first time in 3 years this year, we had a 3 week holiday and thoroughly enjoyed it, I would definitely recommend touring the continent, so far in the many years we've been motorhoming we've visited France (lots), Germany a couple of times, the Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark and Luxembourg, all of which have been very enjoyable.


12/9/2022 at 8:40am
 Location: Staffordshire
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I fully endorse all MrWez has said, we have gone through all types and finally found we are happiest with our MH. It has everything we need - fixed bed, bench seats in front, shower room not the biggest but that is our compromise as realistically how much time do you spend in it?

We often mix staying in full facility sites with basic CL's. We are lucky to not be short of room so we can store at home and have a tow car that we sometimes take with us, all depends on where we go, if we find somewhere near a town, we leave car behind and walk/bus it to places. Your dog will love it too, a change of scenery, new sniffs and plenty of walks.

I would suggest perhaps hiring one with a layout you like first, or have a look here - MH layouts, it will give you some of idea of layouts and sizes etc.


12/9/2022 at 8:56am
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Another thought or two occurred to me when I was out for a run.

If buying used you have the choice of buying from a dealer or privately, you may get a better deal buying privately but buying from a dealer provides more security, you'll get a warranty which personally, I think is worth the extra expense.

Secondly damp. Damp is the killer of motorhomes, if viewing you suspect damp (either by signs or smell), walk away, not to do so could end up being very costly.


12/9/2022 at 10:53am
 Location: Devizes Wiltshire
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The company that did the conversion for my van about 2h's drive away, and yes I had to drive there to have the list of items on the snag list addressed.

It was as expected as the conversion was a very complicated one - the most complicated for them to date apparently.

There were subsequent visits when other faults developed with the TV (damaged cable), electrical fault (circuit design related), water tank (I caused the damage to the under-carriage water tank) and awning (a sensor not functioning properly).

However, Young Conversions were brilliant, and Robbie Young travelled to mine a few times to try and fix/address the issues.

He was quick on the phone when I lost power in my 12V sockets (a fuse blew) recently and needed help to fix it.

Therefore, I am very happy with the products and services from them to date.

The decal/graphic on the bonnet started to lift on one edge a few months after I took delivery of the van.

I could have had it fixed under warranty. However, it would require a day trip to the company that did the graphics near Young Conversions and I decided against it due to work commitments.

Also I could get it replaced locally by a graphics firm just around the corner where I live (they did some vinyl wrapping for my car) which would be more convenient and cheaper as I would not need to take a day off work.

Another good thing about my PVC is that she is just under 6m in length, and can just about squeeze into a normal size parking space (I tend to park as far away from other vehicles as possible out of habit).

I went for a 2h driving lesson in a van similar in size to mine with a HGV instructor so that I could have a feel for what it would be like driving a 6m van, and learnt some tips along the way. I found it to be easier than towing a small leisure trailer with a car to be honest.

Horses for courses and all that.

DK

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- 2024 - 10/56 inc. FR & NL
- 2023 - 48 inc. FR
- 2022 - 49
- 2021 - 34
* Ex-tenter & solo female camper *
* Treat life events like a dog: If you can't eat it, play with it, or hump it, p1$$ on it and walk away! *


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12/9/2022 at 11:07am
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Quote: Originally posted by dk168 on 12/9/2022
I went for a 2h driving lesson in a van similar in size to mine with a HGV instructor so that I could have a feel for what it would be like driving a 6m van, and learnt some tips along the way. I found it to be easier than towing a small leisure trailer with a car to be honest.

Horses for courses and all that.

DK



That was a good idea. I think anyone who has only ever driven a car should have a few familiarisation lessons if they are going to drive something much bigger than they are used to. Oh, and anything is easier than towing a small trailer, mine's an absolute nightmare. I'd sooner tow a 25ft trailer any day!


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16/9/2022 at 4:04pm
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Turn up, level it if need be, job done.
Same when leaving, I used to be green with envy watching motorhomes arriving and leaving with little hassle.
So much so I purchased one!


18/9/2022 at 3:50pm
 Location: midlands
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Thank you, some very useful pointers in the discussion! We are ok driving it....or at least husband is....he has driven vans and mini buses and a trailer so hopefully will be ok..although I may need a few lessons. We think we know the layout we want (apparently a popular one though so not so easy to get hold of!) and wouldn't buy a brand new van I don't think....a newer pre loved one would do us from a reputable dealer with a guarantee.


19/9/2022 at 4:24pm
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Quote: Originally posted by febe3 on 18/9/2022
Thank you, some very useful pointers in the discussion! We are ok driving it....or at least husband is....he has driven vans and mini buses and a trailer so hopefully will be ok..although I may need a few lessons.



It's a good idea to have some lessons if you're not confident about driving a larger vehicle, it is really vital that you're both able to drive it, you never know if/when something may happen to the main driver and you're going to have to drive it or be stuck!



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