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PersonColin21
28/10/2023 at 2:22pm
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Quote: Originally posted by 664DaveS on 28/10/2023

I wasn't too bothered to change but it's the wife's car and she fancied an auto.

My Mini is an auto too, petrol and lots of fun.
A lot of manufacturers seem to be stopping manual models.


I am not really surprised manufacturers are stopping manual models, I suppose that is a consequence of producing more electric and hybrid models for which a manual box would be inappropriate. My only surprise is that manual gearboxes have survived as long as they have. Most HGVs and nearly all buses and coaches have been automatic for several years, and I have only had automatic cars for decades, my first being in the early 1970s, soon after I passed my PSV test on a crash-gearbox bus. All that gearchanging and clutch-pumping drove me up the wall, especially in heavy traffic.

I definitely wouldn't want a manual box in a leisure vehicle like a motorhome!



Post last edited on 28/10/2023 14:26:16

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I used to drive RAF Bedford 4 tonne trucks in Germany, no power steering and double de clutching but I was younger and fitter then.Parking and low speed manoeuvres were fun with big chunky tyres and heavy steering.
We also had some older Land Rovers with no synchro on first and rather vague gearchanges!
Must admit I like the autobox. The Hyundai has paddles to shift if you want, the Mini you push the shifter to the left and click forward or backwards. Most of the time it's in D!

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PersonColin21
28/10/2023 at 6:08pm
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Quote: Originally posted by 664DaveS on 28/10/2023
I used to drive RAF Bedford 4 tonne trucks in Germany, no power steering and double de clutching but I was younger and fitter then.Parking and low speed manoeuvres were fun with big chunky tyres and heavy steering.
We also had some older Land Rovers with no synchro on first and rather vague gearchanges!
Must admit I like the autobox. The Hyundai has paddles to shift if you want, the Mini you push the shifter to the left and click forward or backwards. Most of the time it's in D!


Just like those old buses then. No fun on a stop/start bus route, double de-clutching every change. Some of them you could get away with changing on the revs without using the clutch, but not all of them. They had no power steering either and vacuum assisted brakes, so you certainly knew it after you had done a nearly 3 hour trip. I was young then too, I passed my PSV at 22. I don't think I could do it today!

My X trail is like your Mini, except that you pull the shift to the right to go into semi-auto mode. I rarely use it though, it's usually left in D.


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PersonMrWez
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Quote: Originally posted by 664DaveS on 28/10/2023
I used to drive RAF Bedford 4 tonne trucks in Germany, no power steering and double de clutching but I was younger and fitter then.Parking and low speed manoeuvres were fun with big chunky tyres and heavy steering.



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