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25/5/2024 at 5:02pm
Location: London
Outfit: Lunar Cosmos 524
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That's rather alarming!
Gasbank is a Polish company, but the cylinders look remarkably similar to Safefill cylinders, so may expect a common manufacturer. Neither Gasbank nor Safefill are likely to be the actual cylinder manufacturer.
I've been using Flogas Gaslight cylinders of a similar construction for a while now, and not had, nor heard of any similar problems, nor have I heard of issues with Safefill cylinders. BP did the Gaslight cylinders for many years before Flogas took over, so the technology is very well proven.
Presumably a batch QA problem in this case rather than an inherent type problem, but that said, the slimline cylinders are I believe quite new to the market!
It does rather highlight a concern I have about transporting cylinders in a car. I do it, when getting refills, and when tent camping, I don't have much choice, but acutely aware that cylinders mounted in leisure vehicles are fitted in lockers with drop out vents, so leaking gas can escape (hopefully!) safely, but in a car you can get a dangerous build up of gas, as no where for it to disperse! The other thing is, most gas lockers are deliberately devoid of any ignition sources, but a car is full of them, such as door switches for interior lights etc, sensor switches for seatbelt buckles and seat occupancy etc, in fact just about every electrically connected device! I reassure myself that incidents are all but unheard of, but it niggles in the back of my mind a little too much!
Lucky you spotted the leak early, and the dealer was vigilant enough to check other stock!
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16/7/2024 at 11:22am
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Permitted - arguably YES, on account of no one is checking, or dictating on transport method beyond it must be upright (Cylinder supplier instruction, and that is to ensure any leakage from the valve is gaseous not liquid - you REALLY don't want to be around a liquid LPG leak - BIG 'boom' when it goes up!). Laws/regulations exist for transporting of LPG by businesses, but not it would seem for private individuals, although Ferries, Chunnel, AND some inland road tunnels have restrictions! Aimed mostly at businesses, but useful info perhaps: https://www.adamsgas.co.uk/2020/06/08/how-to-safely-transport-gas/
Wise - potentially not, but not so different from a cylinder transported in a car boot!
Problem is that LPG is heavier than air, any leakage will 'flow' to the lowest accessible point and accumulate there (that may be your habitable space living area!), it will also build up and displace air (from the floor upwards) if it can't escape, so both a fire/explosion and suffocation risk in extreme circumstances.
All purpose built gas lockers have drop out vents in the lowest part to the outside atmosphere, they are also sealed from habitable areas to stop any leakage entering them, and not to be overlooked, they usually have no ignition sources such as electrical devices (lights etc.) that in the case of a leak could ignite it! The garage area fails (as does a car boot!) on all those points!
In a case of fire/explosion, I wouldn't want to be the one trying to get an insurance company to cover the loss/damage! I'd check for any SPECIFIC clauses about transport of LPG on your insurance policy!
Would you be alone in doing so, absolutely not. When tent camping, we've carried cylinders in car boots and vans, simply because no alternative way of transporting - but been a little paranoid about any whiff of gas! Friends with MHs going abroad have had a UK cylinder in gas locker, and a Continental one in garage, they swap them over once abroad.
If you want a safety backup, you can get gas alarms that will alert you to a gas leak.
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