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Subject Topic: Need Advice on Off-Grid Electrical Setup Post Reply Post New Topic
26/2/2025 at 2:38pm
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Hey everyone,

I’m in the middle of converting my van for a summer road trip across Europe, and I’m trying to figure out the electrical setup. I don’t have much experience with this kind of thing, so I’d really appreciate any advice from those who’ve done it before!

I want to be able to run some basics—lights, a fridge, maybe a small induction hob or kettle, and charge my laptop/phone. I’ve been looking into different options, and I came across these full off-grid camper conversion kits.

It looks like an all-in-one solution, which is ideal since I don’t really know how to piece everything together myself. Has anyone used something like this before? Would it cover all my needs, or should I be looking at something more custom?

Also, any general tips for setting up an electrical system for long-term travel? I want to make sure I don’t get stuck somewhere with dead batteries!

Thanks in advance! 😃


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Hello, and welcome!
Before anyone can help I think you need to elaborate what your "van" is.
I.e Is it a campervan that has already got beds, cupboards etc and you are looking to extend the electrical system and to ensure it is compatible with continental sites or are you starting with simply a commercial vehicle?
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28/2/2025 at 9:08am
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Using gas for fridge, heating, cooking etc will make life with electric easier.
I run a telly, charge phones and charge battery etc etc with solar power and 110ah battery.


28/2/2025 at 11:31am
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Low wattage appliances such as kettle and an induction hob would still drain a battery in no time.

Hence I too would advise to use gas for cooking and boiling water for brews.

If you are planning to use a suitcase stove with butane canisters, remember to insulate the canisters as butane does not burn well at sub-zero temperatures.

For my money, I would get one of the Coleman Dual Fuel stoves. My 2-burner one operated well when I went camping in winter.

I regretted selling my Coleman 424 2-burner stove when I switched to a van so much I have recently bought a replacement.

If you decide to get a Coleman dual fuel stove, I would advise getting a spare generator at the same time. My initial one failed mid-trip, good job I was carrying spare stoves as part of my tenter kit; otherwise I would have to rely on eating out or getting take aways!

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Quote: Originally posted by dk168 on 28/2/2025
If you are planning to use a suitcase stove with butane canisters, remember to insulate the canisters as butane does not burn well at sub-zero temperatures.



Gas canisters get cold due to the discharge of gas, i.e. latent heat of evaporation.
Insulating the the canister will result in the canister being unable to regain that heat from atmosphere, subsequently getting even colder and reducing the evaporation and discharge of gas.

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Quote: Originally posted by Bernie47 on 28/2/2025
Quote: Originally posted by dk168 on 28/2/2025
If you are planning to use a suitcase stove with butane canisters, remember to insulate the canisters as butane does not burn well at sub-zero temperatures.



Gas canisters get cold due to the discharge of gas, i.e. latent heat of evaporation.
Insulating the the canister will result in the canister being unable to regain that heat from atmosphere, subsequently getting even colder and reducing the evaporation and discharge of gas.



Spot on Bernie, any gas canister/cylinder needs to regain heat from it's surrounding ambient air, to compensate from the internal chilling from evaporation, otherwise it will result in reduced and even no production of gas vapor from the stored liquid state.


28/2/2025 at 3:06pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Bernie47 on 28/2/2025
Quote: Originally posted by dk168 on 28/2/2025
If you are planning to use a suitcase stove with butane canisters, remember to insulate the canisters as butane does not burn well at sub-zero temperatures.



Gas canisters get cold due to the discharge of gas, i.e. latent heat of evaporation.
Insulating the the canister will result in the canister being unable to regain that heat from atmosphere, subsequently getting even colder and reducing the evaporation and discharge of gas.



What I meant was for the butane canisters to be insulated in storage and do not keep them out in the cold, which was what I did over the New Year weekend in 2008/09.

I should have stored them inside the tent, tucked up in a towel etc...

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28/2/2025 at 3:08pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Monty15 on 28/2/2025

Spot on Bernie, any gas canister/cylinder needs to regain heat from it's surrounding ambient air, to compensate from the internal chilling from evaporation, otherwise it will result in reduced and even no production of gas vapor from the stored liquid state.



See my response to Bernie.

Insulate while in storge, not in use.

Besides, I have yet to work out how one can insulate a butane gas canister in a suitcase stove during use!

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It is quite possible to go gas free now!! You would need a big battery, but that is not a problem nowadays using LiFePo4 batteries, which are coming down in price. To give you an idea of usable times, last November,with very little solar rechargeing we remained off grid for three days using,via an inverter, induction hob, electric mini oven, electric kettle, 12volt compressor fridge and microwave.Our 280 amp battery was full at the start, and had 20% charge left. Remember that what power is used has to be replaced, which can take a longtime, when back on to hook up.

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We have a power bank that we won in a UKCS advent calendar competition. It’s intended for off grid camping in vehicles with no gas or leisure battery. We have a MH, so the power bank lives in / is used in the garage / tool shed, is recharged annually from the house. Extremely heavy (the delivery guy could barely lift it & we had to use a trolley). It has 3 pin sockets & usb ports etc.

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2024 = 20 sites / 41 nights. 2023 = 9/23. 2022 = 13/35. 2021 = 11/29. 2020 = 4/20. 2019 = 13/35. 2018 = 20/33. 2017 = 10/22. 2016 = 19/33. 2015 = 15 sites / 27 nights. Didn't count 1976 to 2014.



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