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21/2/2007 at 2:54pm
 Location: Midlands
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I've just been to the motorhome show at the NEC and was about to buy a camera and screen for improving the rear view from my campervan when the rep told me that the device was legal if used for reversing - but was illegal if used to get a view of the traffic conditions behind me. I was a bit surprised by this (an honest broker?) as it seemed to me that the screen  would replace the incomplete view from my internal mirror with a view that was better in every way.  My wing mirrors are ok but the wide angle view from the camera was much better. Apparently its illegal because a moving image in the cab would be considered a distraction. In fact I can't see the difference between the changing view in my mirror and the image on the screen, especially as the screen would probably be mounted on the mirror. On the way out of the show we spoke to a traffic policeman whose view was that the device would not be illegal.  I've phoned the RAC legal dept who say that it probably comes down to whether in the event of an accident an insurance company might claim that the screen was a distraction.  Any views or experiences ?


21/2/2007 at 8:18pm
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Mmmm well I have had one for a while, I actually asked  our local traffic police, even showed them the screen and the set up. They even have them in their cars as well. They said so long as used to view the road then its legal (hence why they are allowed to have them in the traffic cars)

I have also asked the traffic cops in a service area of the M6, same opinion from them, though they did say that at night, with it all lit up they may pull you over to check your kids are not watching a film etc



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21/2/2007 at 9:51pm
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Thanks Fraz.  That's good news. 

George

And thanks for the wecome!

 



22/2/2007 at 9:06pm
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A guy who I know has a rear view camera mounted on the back of his van, and had the moniter on when he was driving on the M6. He was pulled over by motorway police and issued with a fixed penalty fine which he refused, and elected to go to trial. He went to a pre trial hearing and a date was fixed for the trial. In the mean time he sent a email to the ministry of transport explaining the details of the case and they said that so long as the monitor was not in the sweep of the wind sreen wipers it was OK. On the date of the trial he attended, but the policeman who isued the fine did not, the ecscuse was he was on holiday so the case was chucked out, and he never got his ruling on it, and thats what he was after.



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The rule is whether the screen is a distraction to the driver. As Sat Nav screens and TV`s covered in the RTA 1988,

The point could be argued that this is an aid to safer driving as the close circuit Tv gives a better view of traffic at the rear from the mirrors fitted to the vehicle.

LGV`s are covered by legislation regarding camera`s due to the high accident rate in the work place.

If there is any resoneable doubt the case would be thrown out

I shall have the monitor switched on and would argue the point. SAFETY NOT DISTRACTION,

 

Pete

 



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23/2/2007 at 9:29am
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Thanks for the replies,  I spoke to Warwickshire Police yesterday and they said that they would check their databases and ring back.  A few hours later a PC called back and said that most of the existing legislation, which talks about cathode ray tubes, would not be enforcable but until there is a test case the situation remains confused.  He agreed that the camera could provide safer driving.  The system stays at the top of my wish list, and I'll probably risk it.  I was about to buy at the show but now I'll have a trawl arount the net.

Coventry Kid



23/2/2007 at 9:44am
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Your get out of jail card there (pardon the pun) is to get a TFT instead of a CRT.


23/2/2007 at 11:24am
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The thing is the legislation was brought in initially to stop drivers watching tv as they drove a long .

I doubt whether the CPS would run it anyway especially if you replied after caution and you would be cautioned or should be "The reversing camera is a safety device.i installed it to eliminate blind spots."

Funny thing the law its never Black or white or even colour.

 




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