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20/9/2012 at 3:52pm
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Good Luck, my OH had the second option, followed by a course of antibiotics as a precaution as he had his Nepherostomy removed at the same time. both options demand that you drink loads of fluids afterwards to help wash any debris away, and OH used to aim to drink 4ltrs a day, which was mostly water and fruit squash.

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Quote: Originally posted by martin2410 on 14/9/2012
Anybody out there got any 'old wives remedies' to getting rid of kidney stones?

Bottom line is, I have till wednesday to pass a 7mm stone, or the doc goes in with a laser while im under general anaesthetic. I dont fancy this idea, so if there is a 'quick fix' i would love to know about it.

By the way- I have to type this fast before the excrutiating pain comes again.




Bloody hell... 7mm,

I had one a few years ago and was taken to hospital until I passed it, god knows how you are managing. Good luck.

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21/9/2012 at 10:17am
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well, touch wood, I havent had any pain for over a week now, but the stone has'nt moved in that time. I dont know how things would be if I was at work. Work wont let me in untill Ive passed it because Im a driver and nobody wants the risk that the pain could start at any time.

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Go and have it lasered

The procedure:
I had a stent fitted from my kidney to my bladder.This will open up the tube making passing of the fragments easier.

A few weeks later i went in for the op.After the op you will need to pee,i did one straight away.I knew it would hurt and i am not going to kid you it does but does ease after a couple of goes.

A few weeks later you will have another xray to make sure everything is fine and then have the stent removed.

You are awake for the removal of the stent(i can't remember if i was awake when i had it fitted)and i found it painles.The stent is a tube with a pigs tail kink at each end.To remove it the doctor/nurse/cleaner grabs the end at the bladder and twists and it unkinks and pulls out

You have my sympathy,i have never known pain like a kidney stone!


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My other half said you want to try having a baby.She is designed to have babies!
She wants to try P*ssing a brick!


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Quote: Originally posted by Surfin on 21/9/2012
My other half said you want to try having a baby.She is designed to have babies!
She wants to try P*ssing a brick!


I am waiting for an answer to come in the school playground at pick up time from a woman who has had both to confirm wether or not a kidney stone is more painful than having a baby. I think it probably is!

(thats just started a debate-time to disappear for a year or 2,LOL!)




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21/9/2012 at 2:44pm
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It's a lot easier for ladies to pass a kidney stone than a bloke. Straight passage and no prostate.

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21/9/2012 at 9:30pm
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Quote: Originally posted by martin2410 on 21/9/2012
Quote: Originally posted by Surfin on 21/9/2012My other half said you want to try having a baby.She is designed to have babies!
She wants to try P*ssing a brick!


I am waiting for an answer to come in the school playground at pick up time from a woman who has had both to confirm wether or not a kidney stone is more painful than having a baby. I think it probably is!

(thats just started a debate-time to disappear for a year or 2,LOL!)






I've had both and it's a close call!


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27/9/2012 at 7:07pm
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got my letter today to go for the lithotrypsy. I read through the information leaflet they sent and it sounds rather scary. The hospital Im going into do this procedure in theatre. The only time I want to go into theatre is when Im fast asleep after the anaesthetic. Probably wont sleep next thursday night.

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27/9/2012 at 7:50pm
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Im sure you will be fine Martin, mostly, patients are able to go home in the evening on the same day the proceedure is done, but my OH spiked a temp, and due to the ulceration from his blockage in the ureter, they decided to keep him for 24hrs on a drip of saline and strong antibiotics, which he came home with a continuation of the same drug in capsule form the next day.

good luck anyway

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29/9/2012 at 8:54am
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mmmmm, I do know that the hospital I am going into, is only a day surgery unit. A few years ago when I went into the same unit for dental extractions, the staff told me the unit closes at 8.00pm so its everybody out dead or alive.

Thank you all for the good wishes.


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06/10/2012 at 8:22am
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I had the lithotrypsy done yesterday and all went well. Apart from the fact that I went into hospital at 8.00am, went into the room for treatment at 9.30 then was told that they couldnt do it as the x-ray machine on the lithotripsy machine wasnt working. So they were getting another brought down from Preston but only in the afternoon. I finally got done at 2.00pm and fortunatly evicted at 3.00pm. I did feel pain later in the day and during the night, but not passed any blood (dont know if thats a good thing or not). The nurses told me I might need another session, but at least next time I will know what is being done. The biggest worry in cases like this is the fear of not knowing what will happen. I just hope this pesky stone leaves me alone now.


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Lithotrypsy - (the ultrasound one):

You'll go in, they'll explain the procedure, and fill in the forms. You'll get your gown on, have one of those suppository things inserted, and wait 20 mins or so.
Once in there, you'll lie on your front, they'll gel up your back, then start to locate the stone with some device or other, pushing firmly against your lower back. (the harder they push, the closer and more accurate they can be, to clearly define the stone) This can take 1 to 10 mins, until they are satisfied they can "get a clear shot" at it, then the treatment starts.... You hear the clicking, and you feel what can only be described as a good quality elastic band be vigorously flicked in exactly the same spot, in your lower back. It gets a little harder, and a little faster..... flick, flick, flick.

Throughout all this, they constantly ask you to stay as still as possible, including your breathing, which ain't easy, as you are lying on your front, but the stiller you remain, the more times the sonic waves will hit the stone. The idea is that this smashes the stone up into smaller pieces, enabling them to be passed un-noticed. You will most likely be in there for a good half hour or so, and you may well be asked to go three or four times, probably once a week/fortnight. They don't like to do it too often, as it "may" cause more damage to the surrounding area, than it does to the stone! It's all down to how accurately they hit the stone, and ultimately, how hard the stone is. One visit could blast it to smithereens, four visits could "not even touch the surface".
After the treatment, you will return to the ward, have a cuppa, and a wee. Once you have finished both, they'll get you to dress, and go home. In and out in a couple of hours. On the table for no more than 45 mins. Fully awake throughout, and "rather/very uncomfortable, as opposed to being in pain. At worst, by the time you walk out, you may feel a little soreness in the back, along with a little back ache due to lying on your front.
When you get home, and start to tell the family all about it, if you use the word "agony", you are officially a wimp. If you use words like "slightly painful for a bit" or even "very uncomfortable", then you'd be on a par with my experiences.


Now then, if they keep missing the stone, or it simply proves to be too hard for the Lithotrypsy to blast into dust, and the stone remains, then you come to the lazer....



TO BE CONTINUED.....

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06/10/2012 at 9:13am
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The laser is nowhere near as bad as it sounds...

They gave me the choice of GA, or wide awake, with an epidural. I opted for the latter, as they said I would recover quicker, and feel better, sooner, as the GA makes you feel 5*ite!!

Once on the table, they even asked if I wanted to watch, on a tv monitor above. How could I refuse!!!
It really was like watching the latest episode of star wars!! First, you see the camera wending it's way up the tube, with all the nasty looking floaty bits zooming by, and then lo.... out of nowhere, there is Planet Agonon!! Bigger than any of our moons, with sharper edges than any numbchucker!! It was massive (Actually, mine was only approx. 3mm, so lord knows what yours would look like at 7mm!!!), and it was blocking the pathway, so it had to be annihilated!!

On with the dark glasses, and... FIRE!!! From this stage, any 9 year old worth his salt would have had a field day. Talk about "shoot 'em up"!!!

Blasted in minutes..... Planet Agonon was dust, I tell you!!

If memory serves, just 3 hours later, I was back on my feet, on my way home. :-)




IMO, either of these treatments are a million, yes million, times better than suffering the absolute agony of what a kidney stone offers once it finds it's way into your urethra.
Should anyone be offered either of these treatments, sign up.... the alternative is so not nice!!!!!!




BTW, I saw mention that once it's over, it's over. Not strictly true! Yes, this/these stone(s) may be blasted to the back of beyond, but chances are, you will, or certainly may, produce more, as is the case here. Two years after successfully obliterating one with the lithotrypsy, 3 returned, hence the above described treatments.

Yes, diet can help, but it can't guarantee they'll stay away.

Coffee, strawberries, rhubarb, dark green veg (spinach etc) can all contribute. Even fags, but they say that anyway, just to "make you think"!! Milk and cheese etc. too. Calcium is a chief cause of these blighters, but not the sole cause, and of course, we need calcium elsewhere, so what is a man to do?

Good luck, martin..... and may the force be with you!!!!

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