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14/3/2013 at 6:15pm
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I don't really see the connection between service & MOT and mine are always done separately. The mot items likely to be covered in a service you can do yourself easily - bulbs, washers etc.
I don't always get a service done annually anyway. Why would it need servicing just because the date has changed? I look at the mileage covered since last service.

To save money I use a commercial vehicle repair centre that also does cars. Mine is also used by BT. Hourly rate £38. They Never fail an mot just to generate work.


14/3/2013 at 8:44pm
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Mot, are in reality just basics really.  Lights, indicators,  pads, discs brakes, window wipers, exhaust system, emissions. horn, window screens, mirrors,  tyres, brake fluids  any other fluids. corrosion, seatbelts. Doesn't sound much.Oh yes, the suspension.

Will garages do you think, will do an emissions test if you ask?

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15/3/2013 at 11:15am
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Some garages will carry out a pre-MOT check, so if it has any points that would fail the car, including emissions, there's no need to take it off the road (technically) as your old MOT is still valid. If you know a local mechanic, he could probably do it for you. Emissions don't usually come into the equation on fairly modern cars, i.e. about 10 yrs old, when air filters and plugs have been changed.

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15/3/2013 at 1:02pm
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Thanks Bridgelayer,  thats sounds good to me, an emissions test.  Any problems, then it can be delt with.

Last year, I told a particular garage that the engine was running fast, (meaning idle) He said it sounded fine.   It cropped up in the MOT, same garage which said it was fine prior to the test.  very confusing. Still wasn't resolved, thats why it needs to be delt with.

That was the other thing about the service, all the air filters, plugs, oil, ect is changed, correctly filled.   Ready for MOT.

It is finding garages, mechanics to trust to do the work.  One of the reasons to do it seperatly.   There is a particular garage which I won't go to, as they tend to do unnecassary work.  Then keep the car for days on end. Grrrrr

One of the old bangers I had, I intended to scrap and get £50 for it.  Went to a garage just for a simple job to do, There was another problem with it, which I was aware off, but didn't put the  car indanger.

Mechanic checked the car, informed me about the existing problem, which he said needed doing,   When I refused the work to go ahead, as I told him, it's not worth doing because it was going to  scrap.

He nearly burst a blood vessel, because I over ruled him.  He refused to do the simple job, which I went in for.   In the end it didn't matter.  It was soo funny to see a grown man having a dicky fit.  lolol.   For another person, it could have been really intimidating.  Which is not so funny.

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15/3/2013 at 8:20pm
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The MOT has to be done the same time each year, give or take. So does the tax. A service is flexible.


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15/3/2013 at 9:41pm
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Quote: Originally posted by kerrera on 15/3/2013
The MOT has to be done the same time each year, give or take. So does the tax. A service is flexible.an mot


An mot has to be done no later than the first anniversary of the last one. It can be done early for any reason. Likewise tax can be surrendered and repurchased. Sometimes people want to do this to stagger bills through the year.


15/3/2013 at 10:00pm
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i allways MOT then service and never at the same place . If it passes the service can be put off for a short time if it fails you can get quotes for work needed ! If you service first then MOT the service may not pick up on a fault that dosent affect the running of your vehicle ie chipped wind screen .


15/3/2013 at 10:16pm
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Once again have to agree if money and budgets are tight I would concentrate on the MOT. If the oil needs changing it won't kill the car to wait a couple of months. If you can't drive the car because you've no MOT and no spare cash because you spent it on a service you have no car to run around in...even though you may have a fully serviced car.

As stated this may not be entirely the cheapest option but you will spend your money in a prioritised way. You may even be surprised that it goes through an MOT needing little or no work...


15/3/2013 at 10:34pm
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Well, I only do 7k a year mileage so that's well below the service requirements so she doesn't get a quite annual service. However, if something don't feel right, and no obvious reason I can deal with - modern cars being what they are - it's down to the blokes at the garage. 

My local garage is very good at giving one a heads up (more than the manufacturers) about potential issues. And they also say when I'd be best trying another website for parts as they're a bit tied into the system. recent savings include £140 on four brake pads; they will also not bitch if I get tyres etc elsewhere and £25 hour labour. - that's £150 cheaper than a make's dealership all of which are mainland based.

Having said that, I do get an interim mini-service (£60) that highligts any potential problems and if a recommendation comes up on the MOT I double check the situation and if necessary find funds to deal with it. My car is our family's lifeline; I also do not want to have something known about fail and cause an accident to us or others. \

Plus of course, I do regular checks of those things I'm allowed to do on my relatively modern car.

 



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16/3/2013 at 3:13pm
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My cambelt and the others things which have to be replaced with it has now been done.  Replaced the fan belt without any extra charge.  excellent.  Cleaned something or other. 

He is going to do the cars service and Mot for me.   I am very happy.

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16/3/2013 at 3:55pm
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That sounds fair enough.

Nephew just bought a car and after a week he found a squeak. He took it back to the garage and the water pump bearing had gone. They did that job under guarantee and said the timing belt was worn and not covered by guarantee. They charged him £160 for labour for the belt fitting. What they didn't tell him was the belt only cost £30 and all the labour had to be done for that job was needed for the water pump replacement. Basically, the cost to them was only for the replacement pump. He'll be older and wiser next time.

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16/3/2013 at 5:39pm
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I myself learnt about cambelts, was to google and ringing garages for the best price.

All the garages told me, they buy complete kits, thats the water pump, bearings and cambelts.  I googled this to cross reference to make sure. plus Honda Civic Forum.

The whole lot is replaced.  The garage should have told him about the cambelt at the  time, as it is a job lot.   Cambelts are dirt cheap to buy  in themselves.  The most expensive quote was under £300.  for the whole kit. 

I really do recommend to ring as many garages, even go for second opinions. and google.     

It is a big learning curve.   I had mine done cheaply, as the bloke does work on his days off, when not working in the garage.   He charges trade price. I got his name,from the guy who did my exhaust section. As he also does work for them.

 The other cheap quote was £170.  

A garage who rang me back quoted £250 , when I mentioned the car needed service +mot, my next quote was £200 job lot.   meaning the cambelt +kit, service + mot.

I didn't go with that garage, as in the past he keeps my car for days on end. He wasn't happy when I told him, that the car was already booked in with someone eles.  He laughed about something eles. Then goes on about he does diagnotic testing, which he does for free other wise it would cost £40.   Nahhhh!

So my Chappie is going to do my car service and see to the mot.   And through general chatting about cars, I told him I go camping, he says he goes to Anglesy to his caravan, he also has a campervan, which I spotted.  lol so got alot in common. 17

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16/3/2013 at 7:13pm
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You can't beat having a pet mechanic.
My son's a mech for BMW and does mine for free - almost.
He's also a pretty good plumber. Now all I need is a pet builder.

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17/3/2013 at 8:33pm
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Hope all goes well and the car flies through the MOT and service.


30/3/2013 at 2:33pm
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Hi, I had a couple new tyres put on the car, made the date for the MOT and Service. A knocking sound evolved, the bush arm was loose, He sorted it for me. the mechanic took it for the MOT and did the service.
He is going to sort the other for me, in a few weeks time. As it is fine for now.

My car is on the road for another year. He has saved me a fortune, other wise it would have cost me an arm and a leg. I would not have been able to afford it all at once.

Having the bits done, every couple of weeks, helped a great deal.   

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30/3/2013 at 4:44pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Bridgelayer on 16/3/2013


You can't beat having a pet mechanic.
My son's a mech for BMW and does mine for free - almost.
He's also a pretty good plumber. Now all I need is a pet builder.



Ha ha excellent, I have a pet hairdresser and web designer, not much help with the cars though.

Our old Volvo estate just passed it's mot, just a couple of bulbs needed, thank you God, Buddha, whatever! xx

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