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10/2/2013 at 2:27pm
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Quote: Originally posted by janey47 on 10/2/2013
I know that in the wild dogs would be eating raw meats, but our dogs are now domesticated.
It bothers me that they would just not be used to dealing the new bacteria etc they would have to cope with if its raw, , as cooking kills off a lot of bad stuff.
I have heard some good reports about feeding raw, but I have never been quite brave enough to do it
Should it be introduced slowly? And what about fibre? Eating 100% meat where is the roughage/fibre?
Sorry for all the questions Wendy, but having had one dog really poorly, £1,200 vet bill!! I am keen to learn as much as I can.. Thanks
Raw isn't 100% meat as such, yes it is to look at but it contains cartilage, fat and water. Raw dogs drink very little water as raw food (as we are) is high in water. Dogs don't eat roughage as we do, different digestive systems ours is long and designed to digest food slowly, dogs are short designed to digest fast as they are carnivores. With regards to domesticated dogs and new bacteria etc, we have only been feeding commercial food for 50-100 years dogs as humans take much longer to evolve than that, they can eat raw tomorrow and come to no harm. Dog's have much stronger acid in their stomach and can cope happily with raw even rotten meat. While we desire a low fat diet, fat is what dogs use for energy in place of carbohydrate. All the information used in marketing dog food is likened to humans so we understand it (and buy it). Dogs quite simply have a different requirement to humans.
My Mum had a toy poodle for 8 years fed Bakers (wouldn't listen to me) ad lib, bowl down all the time and she was as fat as a fool, rotten teeth and a lazy wee lump. They came to live with us (Mum & dog) dog went straight onto raw meaty bones, lost all her excess weight, we had her teeth cleaned and she runs about like a two year old now, difference is amazing.
As I said raw is not for everyone, but it is how our grandparents feed their dogs, green tripe or dog mince and that is how I remember, along with a bit of bone meal, raw bones and scraps.
If you are interested in raw feeding this is a good article.
Feeding
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As I said you just need to be content with what you feed your dog and that they are happy and healthy on that food.
I know those little silver sachets are passed like smarties, every yard we were on they were exchanged between owners, somebody always had some when it was needed. There is absolutely no way that horses in the food chain for human or animal are drug free unless they are wild horses rounded up for slaughter. In fact unscrupulous dealers pump animals with drugs to keep them walking as they fetch more money, fallen stock is virtually worthless. They don't undergo drugs testing in a slaughter house.
Wendy
------------- Animals are my friends... and I don't eat my friends...
George Bernard Shaw
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10/2/2013 at 8:33pm
Location: Hayling Island UK Outfit: Royal Winnipeg 6 + Citroen Picasso
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I'm with Wendy on this one!
There are far worse nasties lurking in popular brand pet foods than horse-meat and whilst your dog may merrily scoff his way through whatever he's fed, not appearing to care, his health may be at risk. We all have a responsibility to make an informed choice about what we feed our pets as they are at our mercy.
For anyone concerned, as I am, that the pet food industry has, for years, been allowed to hide waste by-products from human industry, such as re-constituted restaurant fat, ground plastic, ground rubber, ground peanut husks and other yuckies not wholesome to our precious pets, under the guise of "permitted minerals and fats", in their pet's food, please Google the Animal Protection Institute's report on what's really in dog food. True, this report talks about the USA's market, but we share so many brands it's still relevant reading here.
We feed raw too. For those who'd like to try 'BARF feeding but who are a bit squeamish, Natural Instinct Raw dog food is ready-prepared, easy to feed and doesn't contain anything nasty or indeed horse-meat. Not that I'm necessarily against horse-meat, as long as it meets the same standards our more popular meats here do and as long as it's clearly marked on the label.
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10/2/2013 at 11:17pm
Location: whitstable kent Outfit: sterling eccles sport 584 freelander 2
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I'm not concerned if there is horse meat in dog food, its all the other crud they put in it, additives, ash cereals you name it its in there. I'm another RAW feeder convert. I've never had such heathy dogs as I do now, my rescue has no skin conditions anymore and my toy poodle has really great teeth, which sadly toy poodles don't usually have.
I'm a vegetarian, but I don't mind feeding it to my dogs, a lot comes in packs and what I buy that doesn't , well I just grin and bare it, its worth it to see how healthy they are now.
------------- "I'm a fool for my dogs"
Adopt a rescue, rescue dogs make great pets, don't support puppy farms.
The road can be tough and rough,but what you put in you get back 10 x more.
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11/2/2013 at 10:42am
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i feed mine Raw as well, mainly because one of them nearly died due to an auto immune problem, for the person who was worried about bacteria, a dogs stomach is much more acidic than ours, it has to be ,to break down the bones, but what it also does is kill any nasty bacteria. My dogs have never looked better , theres hardly anything to pick up and their teeth are great, and as a bonus is cheap, i feed them 2 meals a day for the same price as a can of rubbish dog food,
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