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Quote: Originally posted by Ronni54 on 19/6/2012

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Quote: Originally posted by lockie on 18/6/2012

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Quote: Originally posted by Ronni54 on 18/6/2012

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Quote: Originally posted by lockie on 18/6/2012

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The problem is you are comparing to those with specialised skills..............

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What makes you think Payroll is not a specialised skill???  With all the legislation involved in payroll these days, the days of just looking up the tax tables and licking NI stamps have long gone. Some of us even have degrees in Payroll Management!!! 

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A senior engineer is a bit more specialised and pays more
link to engineers wages
payroll manager wages.

Unfortunately i dont decide what the going rate is for each skill set but it seems that an engineer is paid more for a reason.

Im not in anyway knocking payroll workers,their education or skills just observing the facts.

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I don't think we were discussing who gets paid how much and whether that is justified.  The issue I took up was the implication in your post that payroll is not a specialised field, not whether it is more or less specialised than other sectors.

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Quote: Originally posted by DaneR on 19/6/2012

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Quote: Originally posted by ldpdmp on 19/6/2012

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Quote: Originally posted by fran1000 on 19/6/2012

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We haven't had a pay rise for 3 years now and our car and mileage allowances haven't gone up for over 5 years (in fact, for those with bigger cars it's gone down and there's talk that they may have to cut it to make savings next year).

The pressure to make savings means that salary scales for new staff have been downgraded, so a job that would have been a promotion is now the same money, or less. It is also very uncomfortable, when a new colleague is doing the same work, and doing it very well, and they know you're on £2.5k a year more than they'll ever earn in the same job.

We get annoyed because admin staff haven't been subjected to the same changes, but it's the frontline staff that bring in the money to pay their wages.

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what's a car and mileage allowance?   never had any of those.  had to buy my own car and run out of the salary

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Obvious question is then: Do you have to use your own car to do your job and travel about between clients.

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Quote: Originally posted by roy c on 20/6/2012

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As prices rise we all need pay rises, no matter engineer, pay rolls, shop floor, so our standard of living for our families doesn't fall.

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Quote: Originally posted by ldpdmp on 19/6/2012

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obvious answer - yes   had to travel to county hall for meetings - had to travel to other schools for meetings      had to travel to management centre for courses     had to visit parents at home sometimes       still no car     had to go back for governor meetings    had to go back for parent evenings     still no car      and no I am not moaning     I did it and enjoyed it   but still no car

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I think that sort of work travel is a bit different - more casual (which is why there are different methods of reimbursing people in some jobs, according to whether they are "essential" or "casual" car users.

We do between 400 and 1,000 miles a month visiting people at home, and are contractually obliged to provide a car to do the job. It's a rural area, so using public transport is not an option. That's why we get the £900 a year, it's to offset some of the costs of running a car. It's taxable though, so really only £720 net (probably NI-able too, so knock off another 12 or13% and it comes down to about £650 - just about covered the tax, insurance and tyres last year!)

The 40p a mile is below the maximum permitted by HMRC for use of a private car for work purposes. You might be able to claim tax relief on 45p a mile, if you have to do it for your job but your employer doesn't pay mileage.

Ours is annually, based on the results of your annual review. At the review, you are rated 1-5, over 5 areas. If you average is 4 or 5, you get a payrise, if it isnt, you dont.

Totally based on ability, nowt more.

Keep your chin up,after all it is regular money coming in which is a massive bonus,I am sure your boss will give you a pay rise one day.

Here is my job,I am self employed,I have a small shop on a very well known internet site selling jewellery I have purchased from wholesaler,work 3 mornings a week,6.15am until 9.30am on my parents farm for £20 a week,a free cooked breakfast and a pint of milk each time I work,it's not how much you earn,we get by,