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Personbadger54
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I am hoping that someone on the site can answer a question that has bugged me for a long time - - even if I am being a bit too pedantic.
Great Britain is England, Scotland, and Wales, the United Kingdom is those three plus N. Ireland. If our Olympic teams contain, as they do, athletes from all four countries why are they referred to as 'Team GB' and not 'Team UK'. I can only assume that it is a PR thing and that perhaps GB sounds better than UK, and so the British Olympic Committee don't care whether it is correct or not.


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It used to be Great Britain & Northern Ireland but the Irish part seems to have been dropped. But more on the point you made, there are also the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man.

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I don't know the answer but it also raises a similar question over the Channel Islands and Isle of Man which are not part of "Great Britain".


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When you get Hong Kong entering a team as though they were a separate nation, then you realise that Planet Olympics is not the same place as Planet Earth.


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Looks like it should really be Team British Islands - see here

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It sounds stupid but its something as simple as the fact that although competitors from anywhere within the UK are selected, the official body is represented as the British Olympic Association which was formed in 1905 BEFORE NI joined the union and nobody has bothered changing it since.  Athletes therefore compete as Great Britian.

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Did you see the little group on the opening ceremony that were independents and refugees! Not sure which events they are in but they seemed to be having a giggle.

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Surely in 1905 it would have been the United Kingdom of Gt.Britain & Ireland. N.I. did not join the union, rather the (now) Republic of Ireland gained independence leaving the UK as it stands today.

Still, let's not get political.. I've read elsewhere that since GB/UK entered the games in 1896 the team has been known as 'Great Britain'.
However, the full name is "the Great Britain and Northern Ireland Olympic team" - as the British Olympic Association's website makes clear. This still doesn't seem to include I.O.M. or the Channel Islands.

Team GB, simply appears to be a more 'catchy' brand name, with no intent to omit anyone.

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Great Britain & Northern Ireland - using all initials it could be Team BIGN -


Personrobnchar
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Because we are a union there are lots of names and abbreviations but if you live in these isles you are British when asked for your official country of origin when abroad no matter what your personal polatics . The Great in Great Britain is a historic addage that's been kept it use to be cool but know seems pompes . We arnt the only country that has more than one name . I mean look at Holland or should I say Netherland were there Dutch and there countries colours are Orange but there flag is red white and blue


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Holland is actually a part of the Netherlands, not an official alternative name, although it is often wrongly used as such - a bit like calling Great Britain by the name of England.

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call us what you like I don't think we will do anything fantastic, I think there's a chink in our armour!


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Quote: Originally posted by millermicm on 29/7/2012
I don't know the answer but it also raises a similar question over the Channel Islands and Isle of Man which are not part of "Great Britain".


Sorry to burst your bubble millermicm but the Channel Islands are a part of Great Britain though not part of the UK, we are also not part of the EEC. I have the passport to prove it. The Islands have several athletes who are part of Team GB, including Heather Watson from Guernsey who plays tennis.




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i used to like the olympics when i was a kid, then again i used to like christmas too!
both have been turned into a sponsored money making event where the true spirit seldom shines through.

the good thing about the olympics being held in britain is that it has generally taken peoples minds off how bad a state the country is in, in a few weeks they will all be back complaining about how much money has been spent and how many of the jobs created by the london 2012 olympics werent actually done by british people and will soon get fed up hearing the stories from anyone they know who went there to work as a volunteer in the hope of rubbing shoulders with some sports person or other, yawn!!!

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Quote: Originally posted by Geetee on 31/7/2012Sorry to burst your bubble millermicm but the Channel Islands are a part of Great Britain though not part of the UK, we are also not part of the EEC. I have the passport to prove it. The Islands have several athletes who are part of Team GB, including Heather Watson from Guernsey who plays tennis.

Not according to every website I've found
This is a quote from http://know-britain.com/general/great_britain.html
"The Isle of Man and the Bailiwicks of Jersey and Guernsey are not part of Great Britain, they are not part of the United Kingdom and neither are they part of the European Union. They are self-governing British Crown dependencies".
The last sentence probably explains why you have your passport, but why you have no right to vote in the UK

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I found this a really interesting post.  To be honest I hadn't thought about the name Team GB but you are quite right - it doesn't include Northern Ireland.  As other threads have stated, if the Channel Islands and Isle of Man aren't part of the UK then the only name I can think of that would include all would be 'Team UK and Islands'



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