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Quote: Originally posted by alan29 on 14/9/2012

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I think you will find that the Bible nowhere states that men have an extra rib.

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Quote: Originally posted by Tentz on 14/9/2012

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Quote: Originally posted by ldpdmp on 13/9/2012

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But is the Bible not allegorical in any case?

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Well of course but as I & most others would have to google 'allegorical' to find it's meaning, I'm quite sure kids wouldn't know the difference either. The op posts do seem to suggest that he was not that happy about his daughter attending a faith school in the first place.

In would agree with the op that kids should be taught the true facts & not be put in a situation where the 'facts' as written in the bible are obliquely taught as true facts. Kids are often not quite up to 'reading between the lines' although I do remember as a kid being taught that God created the world in 7 days & thinking "nah that can't be right". I think this is where I began to stop believing in God.

I would be more in favour of the French system of secular education but in this country we have faith schools & if a parent chooses to send their kid to one they must expect the edges between the the truth & the bible's 'truth' to be blurred sometimes.

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Quote: Originally posted by Tentz on 14/9/2012

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Quote: Originally posted by alan29 on 14/9/2012I think you will find that the Bible nowhere states that men have an extra rib.

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We'll have no pedants here, you knew perfectly well what I was getting at... From Genesis..

'So the LORD God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man's ribs and closed up the place with flesh'

'And the rib that the LORD God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man'

'Then the man said, “This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man"'

....& so on, its all in the interpretation of course. No wonder the op's kid got confused. Or maybe it was the teacher who was confused.

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alan29  -  How do you know what the teacher was saying and speaking without thinking.  You merely presume you do and that s/he was.  

Assumptions can get people into all sorts of scrapes.  So maybe, the premise is to extend your 'pretty good rule' to include the written word.

Quote: Originally posted by ldpdmp on 14/9/2012

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alan29  -  How do you know what the teacher was saying and speaking without thinking.  You merely presume you do and that s/he was.  

Assumptions can get people into all sorts of scrapes.  So maybe, the premise is to extend your 'pretty good rule' to include the written word.

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Quote: Originally posted by cathyw on 14/9/2012

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Probably one of the most bizarre discussions I've read on here!!!!!

I don't know how many ribs me or my OH have and to date it hasn't kept me up at night!!!.

My kids went to a catholic primary and secondary school and quickly learned that science often contradicts religion. They are bright enough to draw their own conclusions as they get older x

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Quote: Originally posted by ldpdmp on 14/9/2012

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Quote: Originally posted by cathyw on 14/9/2012Probably one of the most bizarre discussions I've read on here!!!!!

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I don't know how many ribs me or my OH have and to date it hasn't kept me up at night!!!.

My kids went to a catholic primary and secondary school and quickly learned that science often contradicts religion. They are bright enough to draw their own conclusions as they get older x

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neither contradicts the other   they complement each other     the early scientists were religious   universities were church based   look at oxbridge colleges for example   however it is the interpretation put on the scientific findings that seem to become the issue and an inability to think out of the box      too rigid thinking can lead to too rigid a point of view    flexibility of mind and body are important, wouldn't you say?

Post last edited on 14/09/2012 23:36:06

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Yes but surely, a "fact" is a "fact", op is quite correct that if this came up in an exam she would have answered incorrectly. Thus resulting in a lower score.

Not having a dig, merely stating an opinion.

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Quote: Originally posted by ldpdmp on 15/9/2012

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If by fact you mean -  something that never alters  then facts are not facts they are just transitory peices of information.  The atom was once seen as the smallest particle , then we had neutrons, electrons,etc  now we have neutrinos and Higgs Bosun particles.  So which 'fact' are we trying to discuss?      Life is full of euphamisms, allegories, literal translations, etc. 

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