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Subject Topic: Mattress suggestions please?
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17/10/2012 at 6:49am
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Quote: Originally posted by ldpdmp on 16/10/2012
a bed is not going to cure a back pain     an osteopath did wonders for me and the bed never changed    it is important to get the core muscles active   sitting and lying around will not do this  pilates is a good way to get tne core musces going   once they are doing their job then back pain will be a thing of the past --  providing there is nothing wrong woth the basic structure of the skeleton      we all get our cars seen to annually  but how often do we go for an 'mot' on our backs    my osteopath recommends it but does not force you to do it  it is up to the patient to do the booking   he will not chase    always a good sign in a business  nest feathering does not come into it  



What's the difference in an osteopath and a chiropractor?



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Quote: Originally posted by KimC on 17/10/2012
What's the difference in an osteopath and a chiropractor?


Not much, an osteopath focuses more on the whole body, a chiropractor more on the spine. All either are doing is manipulating vertebrae back into position to relieve pressure on nerve which is the cause of back pain, a visit to either can only bring relief not a cure. The benefit you receive at the time is down to the skill of the individual practitioner. The back pain can of course be caused by a medical problem so they are not a substitute for doctors & have to be seen as complementary medicine

This why a good bed is important. It needs to support your back in it's natural position to ease back displaced vertebrae. A worn out lumpy bed can have opposite effect & cause back pain.


17/10/2012 at 9:54am
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My sciatica was 'cured' by using this. Don't know if it would help you and would advise seeking a professional opinion first, but it certainly worked for me.

We also changed to a memory foam mattress and whilst it is very nice I can't say it did much for my back.


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I just looked mine is a silent night Miracoil memory Avante we have had iT about 5 years.


17/10/2012 at 3:51pm
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Quote: Originally posted by chickric on 17/10/2012
My sciatica was 'cured' by using this. Don't know if it would help you and would advise seeking a professional opinion first, but it certainly worked for me.

We also changed to a memory foam mattress and whilst it is very nice I can't say it did much for my back.




That looks interesting. I'm doing the knee rolls at present.
I'll investigate th emattress thing too. They've asked me to be a moving and handling rep at work. Ironic really!!!



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17/10/2012 at 3:53pm
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I suffer from bad hip pain and sciatica and so bought a memory foam mattress on advice from others and it was a huge, expensive mistake.

Within a month I also had shoulder pain in bed and my hips were worse than ever, I couldn't lie on my side for more than a few minutes before having shooting pains. We spent £600 on the mattress and couldn't afford to swap it, I slept on my back for 2 years before taking it up the tip.

We've gone back to a normal pocket sprung mattress and it's much better.



17/10/2012 at 4:31pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Esther1 on 17/10/2012

I suffer from bad hip pain and sciatica and so bought a memory foam mattress on advice from others and it was a huge, expensive mistake.

Within a month I also had shoulder pain in bed and my hips were worse than ever, I couldn't lie on my side for more than a few minutes before having shooting pains. We spent £600 on the mattress and couldn't afford to swap it, I slept on my back for 2 years before taking it up the tip.

We've gone back to a normal pocket sprung mattress and it's much better.





Ooh poor you! That's exactly what I dont want to happen! I think I'm going to go down the pocket sprung with mattress topper route. Probably not new though in case it ends up an expensive mistake. When I go away in the tent (particularly!!) or the c'van I'm always dreading sleep time too :-(
I like the centerparcs mattresses but they're £550 so out of my range, very comfy though. I know they're sealy forest dreams, but paying for the name .


17/10/2012 at 5:11pm
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I cannot see how the problem can be cured simply by changing a mattress.  It can help support the back properly of course - but only when the back has everything in the right place and working properly.  In many cases bad backs are caused by poor posture / poor seating / lack of flexibility / overwieight / etc.  Sorting any / all of these can only be of benefit.  A major element is related to the core muscles - lower back / abdominal - which support the body when it is upright.  By strengthening these over time - a bad back can be 'cured'.  A doctor / a physio / an osteo / a chiro can only do so much.  The patient has to do something to support the pills / the manipulation / the massage.

Give it a try



17/10/2012 at 6:31pm
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I don't think we're talking curing as much as getting a good night's sleep here!


17/10/2012 at 8:19pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Esther1 on 17/10/2012

I suffer from bad hip pain and sciatica and so bought a memory foam mattress on advice from others and it was a huge, expensive mistake.

Within a month I also had shoulder pain in bed and my hips were worse than ever, I couldn't lie on my side for more than a few minutes before having shooting pains. We spent £600 on the mattress and couldn't afford to swap it, I slept on my back for 2 years before taking it up the tip.

We've gone back to a normal pocket sprung mattress and it's much better.


Completely agree with this.

I had sciatica for years after injuring my back carrying a ladder. An MRI  scan confirmed a prolapsed disc as the cause. We tried a memory foam mattress and it was awful. Clearly this is a question of personal preference but there was a basic 'fault' because as you turn over in bed the memory mattress often holds part of your body in place while the rest moves - so it twists you. It made things worse.

We were advised by people with similar back problems to try a pocket sprung mattress. The effect was immediate. A good bed can make a difference and im not the only one who found this. We paid for a Relyon bed, their strapline is 'The Best Beds in the World' (a big claim, but they get my vote!). It cost a pretty penny but im now four years on and only have the occasional flare up. Its also unbelievably comfortable.

A pocket sprung bed may not work for everyone and Its not specifically designed for people with injuries. but it kind of stands to reason - they are more comfortable than other beds  because they ensure the spine is positioned naturally and supported properly. So if your spine is in the right place then related injuries wont come under more strain while you sleep.  

I spent ages doing all sorts of exercises and making  lifestyle changes. A waste of time.  The bed was the best investment ever.

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17/10/2012 at 10:15pm
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Quote: Originally posted by ldpdmp on 17/10/2012

I cannot see how the problem can be cured simply by changing a mattress.  It can help support the back properly of course - but only when the back has everything in the right place and working properly.  In many cases bad backs are caused by poor posture / poor seating / lack of flexibility / overwieight / etc.  Sorting any / all of these can only be of benefit.  A major element is related to the core muscles - lower back / abdominal - which support the body when it is upright.  By strengthening these over time - a bad back can be 'cured'.  A doctor / a physio / an osteo / a chiro can only do so much.  The patient has to do something to support the pills / the manipulation / the massage.

Give it a try



No I'm not after a cure as such and I know age and the type of job I do is a contributory factor. I just want to be able to get a decent nights sleep to enable me to have enough energy to be able to face the day refreshed rather than a invalid.
I'm doing Pilates to strengthen my core muscles, my weight is fine, posture better than my teenagers (!!) and am generally fairly fit.
Just be nice to have some sleeeeeeeppppzzzzzzzz





17/10/2012 at 10:17pm
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Quote: Originally posted by nynysuts on 17/10/2012
I don't think we're talking curing as much as getting a good night's sleep here!







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We have a memory foam topper! its great but it does like to move around a lot, and we cant use some of the fitted sheets because they wont stretch over the mattress and topper.

Very good for sleep though

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Memory foam beds aren't right for everyone & can also be very difficult to get up from.  I'd also be inclined to go for a good quality pocket sprung bed that's the right firmness for you. 

Contrary to popular belief firm beds are not always best for bad backs either !  My son has a damaged spine & finds too firm bed is desperately uncomfortable & makes his pain & mobility a lot worse the next day. 



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I have a damaged spine from a car accident. One large operation and several small ones later, (two prolapsed and ruptured discs) and I'm still in a lot of pain. I have a mattress topper which helps a bit, but doesn't really cure the sciatic pain.

What worked for me was being referred by the Doc for Aquatherapy at a hospital pool. Nice and warm and the exercise routine worked out for me by the nice therapist did wonders. You can't go there permanently, but I managed to find a nice warm pool where I could do these exercises by myself.

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